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You're Screwed, California
Rush Limbaugh ^ | March 15, 2005 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 03/15/2005 5:53:44 PM PST by srm913

As we have discussed earlier today, (story) "A San Francisco Superior Court judge declared California's ban on same-sex marriage unconstitutional yesterday, saying it violates the basic human right to marry a person of one's choice. More than a year after..." Does the Constitution say anything about this? It doesn't, right? The Constitution doesn't talk about marriage at all, period, one way or the other, right? So we have this big umbrella here, "basic human rights," and the judge is allowed to determine what a human right is and isn't and whether the Constitution means it or doesn't. That's what has happened here. "More than a year after San Francisco mayor Gavin Newsom directed the county clerk to issue licences to gay and lesbian couples at city hall, Judge Richard Kramer gave legal vindication to Newsom's rationale and that is that the state's 28-year-old law defining marriage as a union between a man and a woman is arbitrary and unfair." You know, every time I go to California to make a speech, always in the Q&A session people ask, "Rush, what are we going to do out here?" and I say, "You're screwed. At least I get to leave and go home tonight. You leave and go home and you're still here." I mean, these people in California, it doesn't matter what they do, some judge is going to come along and tell them that what they're doing is unconstitutional, be it Prop 187, be it Proposition X, be it this law defining marriage as that between a man and a woman, some judge is going to come along and tell the voters of California you don't know what you're doing.

"'No rational purpose exists for limiting marriage in this state to opposite-sex partners.' Kramer wrote in a decision relying on rights guaranteed by the California Constitution. He cited as precedent another groundbreaking ruling, the state Supreme Court's 1948 ruling striking down California's law against interracial marriage." So he is comparing racial strife to homosexual strife culturally in the country. Now, his decision is not going to take effect -- during appeals likely to wind up in the state Supreme Court sometime next year. Now, here's one other thing he said: "A discriminatory law cannot be justified simply because such constitutional violation has become traditional," become traditional? I mean, we're going to have to go back and rewrite, I mean how long has marriage been what it is? And it didn't start here. Nevertheless, this will go all of the way up the chain, the food chain in the California court system. But, hey, folks, there's no guarantee what's going to happen. "Well, it's okay. We used to be able to rely on the courts, Rush. Why, the judges, they'll sort all this out, sort it all out."

Now, the California papers are making a big deal today that the judge, Richard Kramer, is Catholic and a Republican. The headline in the San Francisco Chronicle today: "Judge is Catholic and Republican -- 'a brilliant guy.'"

"If things get really tough judge Richard Kramer could always break out his old flak jacket. Five years ago, Kramer, who ruled Monday that the state law against same-sex marriage was unconstitutional, sat on the San Francisco superior court bench wearing a bulletproof vest during a gang trial.

"'He's a brilliant guy,' said Joe O'Sullivan, defense attorney in San Francisco. 'I was fighting with him all the time in that gang trial case, and most of the time I think he was wrong, but he was fair. He tried to do the right thing. In fact, if I saw him in a restaurant I'd shake his hand.' The native of Brookline, Massachusetts," Ah-ha. A Republican from Brookline. That's where Michael Dukakis lives, "earned his law degree at USC, practiced civil law in San Francisco before the then-governor Pete Wilson named him to the bench. Over the years the 57-year-old Roman Catholic Kramer and registered Republican has gained a reputation of being compassionate, respectful, and unbiased." Well, that sets him apart, of course, from other Republicans who are not respectful, who have no compassion, and who are totally biased. See, this is how this stuff happens. He's compassionate, respectful, and unbiased. He's an odd Republican, but we'll take him. We'll take him. "In one survey of judges an attorney wrote of Kramer, 'He has a social worker attitude. He's interested in the defendant, where he went to school, how old he is. He wants the whole picture.'" All right, there we go. So we've got a judge out there with a social worker attitude.

I don't need to amplify this. I don't need to explain "a judge with a social worker attitude." That just sums it all up. Now, this business that the judge in a gay marriage case is a Catholic Republican appointee, so what? So is Anthony Kennedy, and he ruled that same-sex sodomy is a constitutional right under the Fourteenth Amendment which set the stage for holding that same-sex marriage is protected under the Fourteenth Amendment. I told you this was going to happen. You know, when this same-sex marriage started is right after the Supreme Court found that sodomy is constitutional, and I predicted it on the program, and so did Scalia. Scalia in his dissent wrote that this is where this is headed and where it ends we can't possibly know. So, is isn't about party affiliation, folks. It's not about ideology as so many critics seem to think. It's really just about the law, constitutional law, jurisprudence and the kind of people we have on the bench and it seems increasingly, we have people that institute and implement their personal policy preferences rather than simply examine the law.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: marriage; rush; wass
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To: dfwddr

"Bald Eagles" LOL!!


21 posted on 03/15/2005 6:56:14 PM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: Boot Hill

D'ya think its possible a judge could be sued for malpractice.......


22 posted on 03/15/2005 6:56:15 PM PST by mo
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To: srm913

23 posted on 03/15/2005 6:58:04 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. ©)
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To: CounterCounterCulture; Boot Hill; dalereed; NormsRevenge; eldoradude
"We are sooooooooooooooooo screwed."

Next time you can just contract that to WASS, and everyone should know what you mean... (sigh)

Actually we're just in for a long game of Queer Volley Ball!!! (snort!)

24 posted on 03/15/2005 7:05:21 PM PST by SierraWasp (GovernMental EnvironMental Parasitic Pissants perpetually tormenting America Progress!!!)
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To: mo
"D'ya think its possible a judge could be sued for malpractice"

You're asking if the lawyers, who make the law, would fail to protect the lawyers, who are judges, from the rath of the people they serve???

(They are protected.)

--Boot Hill

25 posted on 03/15/2005 7:05:45 PM PST by Boot Hill ("...and Josuha went unto him and said: art thou for us, or for our adversaries?")
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To: srm913

What happened to the Constitutional Amendment?


26 posted on 03/15/2005 7:07:34 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.)
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To: Texas Songwriter
---California voted Rose Bird off the state Supreme Court---
27 posted on 03/15/2005 7:14:37 PM PST by rellimpank (urban dwellers don' t understand the cultural deprivation of not being raised on a farm)
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To: Happy2BMe

silly me...just a hope however!!


28 posted on 03/15/2005 7:15:38 PM PST by mo
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To: Boot Hill

opps..to you Boot Hill!


29 posted on 03/15/2005 7:16:24 PM PST by mo
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To: JoJo Gunn
Yeah. Are you aware that the "Blue" state of California passed a law banning gay marraige, which led to this mess in the first place. Or do you just like posting pictures?

In other words, your graphics have no basis in truth in this matter.

30 posted on 03/15/2005 7:23:34 PM PST by socal_parrot
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To: JoJo Gunn

Whatever happened to this gorgeous young hero? Is he still in the Marine Corps? Haven't heard much since that famous picture.


31 posted on 03/15/2005 7:25:35 PM PST by Inspectorette
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To: Johnstone

I use that same argument all the time.

The response I get is "you're mean."

Standard Liberal invective.


32 posted on 03/15/2005 7:27:59 PM PST by freedumb2003 (First you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women (HJ Simpson))
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To: goldstategop
I fell in love with California the first time I set foot here in 1982. The sheer physical, awesome beauty of the coast, the mountains, the desert, and the year-round incredibly soothing climate (I grew up in New England).

Since then, my heart breaks daily at the Third-World hellhole this once-beautiful Golden State has become. It doesn't matter what we vote for - a liberal judge will overturn the will of the people. I've seen it happen time and again over the past 15 or so years.

33 posted on 03/15/2005 7:31:13 PM PST by Inspectorette
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To: srm913
Got this today from a friend:

The Republicans should back off and let men marry men; women marry women, and totally legalize abortion. In three generations there will be no Democrats.

34 posted on 03/15/2005 7:31:27 PM PST by SouthTexas
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To: Frohickey
Nice to see you are still alive. I was deeply saddened when the Lone Gunmen died on the X-Files.
35 posted on 03/15/2005 7:33:42 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: SouthTexas
Good point. They're the Party Of Death. It would help matters along if we assisted them in their Final Exit. No more liberals.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
36 posted on 03/15/2005 7:34:37 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Inspectorette; Grampa Dave; Dog Gone; snopercod; Carry_Okie; farmfriend; calcowgirl; tubebender; ...
You're so young! I set foot here in 1964 just as Pat Brown presided over the greatest infrastructure building the planet has seen anywhere!!!

I got here just in time to see his son and the "flower children" start turning everything into the "people's park!" Mario Savio and the "free speech movement," and all the little dope smokin punk and punkette Hippies in their VW posey vans... It's all gone straight to hell since listening to and watching LBJ come to SFO to thump Barry Goldwater.

Reagan helped tremendously, but even he could only do so much! CalTrans sold off all the prized "right of ways" for future freeway improvements and we see the deadly, air choking result today. Yes, we voted Rose Bird out, thank God for little favors, yet today we have Republican judges appointed by alledged Republicans... It's all getting so disturbing.

Rome wasn't built in a day and neither was CA, but it was built in a decade and systematically suffocated and destroyed in the next three and a half decades!!!

Nice FR homepage, by the way...

37 posted on 03/15/2005 8:35:08 PM PST by SierraWasp (GovernMental EnvironMental Parasitic Pissants perpetually tormenting America Progress!!!)
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To: srm913
Like I said before, this County judge will get bitch-slapped by the State appellate court soon enough. (But then again, perhaps he's into that sort of thing.)
38 posted on 03/15/2005 8:36:50 PM PST by Redcloak (There is no "I" in team. But then again, there is no "us" in it either. There is "meat" however.)
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To: srm913
It's significant that even back in the 1940s, the Soviet code name for San Francisco was "Babylon."

Maybe not significant, but certainly indicative. Herb Caen dubbed it, "Baghdad by the Bay" a decade before that.

39 posted on 03/15/2005 8:38:00 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Johnstone

Nothing, in answer to your rhetorical questions and hey! As to your tagline... I think this judge thought you said crappy diem!!!


40 posted on 03/15/2005 8:43:53 PM PST by SierraWasp (GovernMental EnvironMental Parasitic Pissants perpetually tormenting America Progress!!!)
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