The evangelical third coming

www.townhall.com ^ | March 14, 2005 | Cal Thomas

[Millicent_Hornswaggle]

Cal has it right. How can these people not see what the liberals are doing to them? Global warming is scam. People that know the Lord should pray before they open their mouths and themselves up to ridicule. They make all christians look bad.

[anniegetyourgun]

While I would agree on the matter of junk science, I wonder why Cal has omitted any mention of Christian stewardship herein.....

[Tom Bombadil]

A "core group" of "influential" evangelical leaders

'Bet it doesn't include conservative evangelicals.

[Coldwater Creek]

I believe that the term "Evangelical" is being grossly misused. It seems to be the in thing to be asscociated with evangelical's now. I have never heard of this people in the article. I am surprised that Cal did not point out that in his piece.

[Coldwater Creek]

make that these people ( must learn to proofread)

[libertylover]

No, no, this is great! If liberals think evangelicals are FOR something, they'll surely want to be AGAINST it, no matter the reasoning, just out of sheer blind hatred. This might strike the biggest blow ever to the "Global Warming" nonsense.

[LowCountryJoe]

This seems like as good of place as any to drop this link. If this thread is causing some strong feelings to brew within you then I highly encourage you to visit the link that I provided.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Don't worry. That's going nowhere. The new evangelical movement will be more centered around:

1. The Baby-killing Courts
2. The Ten Commandments
3. The Pledge Allegiance
4. The National Endowment of the Arts

It will most likely be led by Jerry Falwell, if he can keep his health up. FReegards....

[Bahbah]

The Rev. Rich Cizik, vice president of governmental affairs for the National Association of Evangelicals, a Washington lobbying group....

Part of the good Reverend's problem may be his location. He needs to get out of there.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Don't forget about homosexual super-citizenship.

[xzins]

The Ronald Sider/Jim Wallis crowd is now and has been aligned with the Hillary Clinton wing of the Dem Party. They were the ones who were wowed by Baptist Bill and Methodrine Hill carrying bibles to their counseling sessions.

They're political liberals who have always been political liberals.

Who cares about the murder of a baby if a coral reef is being warmed? Is that what I hear?

[Cicero]

"I don't think God is going to ask us how he created the earth, but he will ask us what we did with what he created."

Cal would do better to understand that this statement is true and reasonable. And you don't have to be Christian, either, to believe that we should take care of the earth.

No, the central question is how do you go about doing that? Not with bogus science and misallocated resources.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

The soft underbelly of global warming is the wackos' opposition to windmills and tidal generators. If the 'fragile planet' is in such dire danger, then the sacrifice of a few fish and birds should be insignificant. But no, they are sacred, while the survival of individuals is nothing important. No worries. Global Warming is fly paper, and the left wing is a bunch of flies unable to escape it.

[BibChr]

"I don't think God is going to ask us how he created the earth, but he will ask us what we did with what he created."

So, God won't care whether we believe or take seriously a clear and foundational — but unfashionable — part of His Word, so long as we buy into liberal orthodoxy.

Sell-out.

Dan
Biblical Christianity BLOG

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

Cal is wrong and he distorts the facts to fit his message. Global warming is a scam, but these people have a right and a responsibility to weigh their views against their own religious standards and to act/vote accordingly. They do not make all Christians look bad. Not at all. They are deceived, but at least they are acting on their convictions. This is America. We used to all be free to do exactly that. There is no either/or in this. You can preach the gospel and be involved in politics.

Cal breaks this rule he sets up for others all the time. Is his column devoted to the gospel or to politics? A Christian can and should concern himself with both. Cal acts like he is the only person in the world capable of doing that.

[LowCountryJoe]

Nope! The tea leaves have been read by the DNC. They've seen the fractures between the Religious Right and the more Libertarian-wing of the conservative movement. Issues such as trade, immigration (even legal immigration), and morality type issues & the clamor for legislation to prevent these 'deviant' behaviors, have been very divisive within the conservative movement lately. The Democrats are no dummies - they will exploit whatever weakness to the movement that they can. Their most current strategy appears as though it may work. Unless, of course, the various factions that make up the conservative movement have some real deep and open-minded conversations with one another, and quickly. As one of those who leans libertarian but yet is a Christian, the only thing I can do is to try and be provocative and persuasive. I hope that others are willing to do the same.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

You are right.

Cal says: Do evangelicals have time on their hands because they've finished the mission to "go and make disciples of all nations"?

So what about him? Isn't he an evangelical? Why is he writing a column about politics? Is he helping the cause of the gospel by bashing Christians repeatedly? I don't think he is advancing the gospel one bit. He should practice what he is preaching first.

Show us by example, Cal.

[LowCountryJoe]

Please read post #8! And, if you feel the urge, click the link.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

These people have a right to be wrong and to base their beliefs on anything they want. That's what this country is all about. People used to know that. Cal used to know that.

In my opinion this is a good thing overall. As the left stops their war on faith, we will all win in the end. There will always be stupid ideas out there based on any number of things, but drawing from one's faith is overall a very good thing. It doesn't make them more or less Christian, nor does it have ANYTHING to do with the gospel. The gospel is not an issue of gov't. You do not relinquish your rights to participate fully in gov't just because you are a Christian, a Jew, a Muslim...whatever. Of course that will shape your view on issues. Ultimately the people will decide who makes sense and who doesn't.

Cal rattled on against conservative Christians a couple of columns ago regarding the Ten Commandments issue. He said they should work to change hearts first. WELL GUESS WHAT, CAL? Hearts are already with us. Seventy-six percent of the public support those displays (according to the AP, a liberal source). The problem is that the ACLU is suing all the time and the courts are ruling against the hearts of the public. That's what we are fighting. And it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the gospel -- other than one day these same people may try to take our right to preach the gospel away too.