Posted on 03/13/2005 1:11:03 PM PST by jan in Colorado
In Islam, lying or omissions for the 'greater good,' according to a strict or radical Islam/Islamist philosophy is not only acceptable, it is holy and blessed work. It is called al-Takeyya (or al-Taqiyya) and is a strategy outlined in the Hadiths and supported by various interpretations of some of the Suras in the Koran. We have just seen it in action and most people never even caught the whiff of mental ether the Islamists were pouring into the airways of the already comatose and choking non-Islamist world.
Al-Takeyya is a policy whereby a Muslim may lie, deceive or omit critical truths if it promotes the spreading of Islam AND the conquest of the non-Muslim world. According to William P. Welty, Ph.D., al-Takeyya/Taqiyya is:
"The Islamic principle of lying for the sake of Allah. Falsehoods told to prevent denigration of Islam, to protect oneself, or to promote the cause of Islam are sanctioned by the Qur'an, including lying under penalty of perjury in testimony before the United States Congress, lying or making distorted statements to the media such as claiming that Islam is a religion of peace and deceiving fellow Muslims when the one lying has deemed them to be apostates." (1)
And here is the definition from an Islam encyclopedia website:
"The word "al-Taqiyya" literally means: "Concealing or disguising one's beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies..." (2)
Now here's where the latest Islamist sneak maneuver of al Takeyya/Taqiyya comes into play. The Islamic Commission of Spain issued a decree against al-Qaeda terrorist leader Osama bin Laden. They did this in response to the bombing of a Madrid train last year by al Qaeda.
Mansur Escudero, head of the Federation of Islamic Religious Entities, called on clerics to formally condemn terrorism and pray for all terror victims. He went on to state, ''The terrorist acts of Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda organization ... which result in the death of civilians, such as women and children ... are totally prohibited and are the object of strong condemnation within Islam.''
Sounds good so far.
But let's examine what this man did not say, as well as the timing of his little media-sensation fatwa.
This fatwa was timed to coincide with the 1-year anniversary of the bombing in Madrid. Sure, several hundred people died, but this is not the first time that hundreds, nay, thousands of people have died at the hands of Muslims merely because they weren't Muslim.
Therefore, one must ask why was there no such fatwa issued in the aftermath of 9-11? And why has no fatwa about the "...death of civilians, such as women and children'' ever been issued regarding the thousands upon thousands of Jewish/Israeli victims of genocidal terror ever been issued?
I will tell you why. This is al-Takeyya/Taqiyya at its most devious and deceptive. And the key word here is 'civilians.'
In radical Islam (Islamism), any Jew living in Israel is not considered either 'innocent' or a 'civilian.' Nor were the people living and working in America on 9-11. Islamists consider the 'Great Satan -- America,' and the 'Little Satan -- Israel,' to be enemy combatants. And this includes every man, woman or child, even babes in arms, even sleeping or in school or playing in playgrounds. This includes any and all who are not Islamists and who oppose being forced to kneel down and pay homage to Allah or his followers. In particular, Christians (whom they call 'Crusaders'), and Jews.
This also includes those of us who refuse to allow the Islamists to insidiously inject their politico-religious dogma into our way of life. And this especially includes Israel, whom the Islamists view as a polluting force in their quest for 'Arab unity' and a Judenrein Middle East.
So the fatwa issued by this Muslim cleric living in Spain was meant to put the free and civilized world into yet another coma. He was hoping we would see this supposedly 'peaceful and tolerant' religious edict and sing the praises of Islam and remind each other how it is a 'peaceful' religion, even though the word 'Islam' also means 'to submit,' and our utter and complete submission is what they are working towards.
The crafter of this latest religious edict, so proudly trumpeted to the world, has achieved nothing more than a clumsy attempt to delude us into thinking that Islamism is really nice and honorable and loving and peaceful. It is also meant to deceive us into believing that even though such edicts were never issued -- and will never be issued -- regarding Americans or Israelis, these particular Muslims are mainstream moderates.
Camel cakes! We are now familiar with the ploy of lying, omissions and deceit as sanctioned by al-Takeyya/Taqiyya. And some of us are not in a humanist/liberal feel-good coma like lambs going to the slaughter. And we will continue to alert you to the deceptions used by the Islamists.
The lesson to be learned here is not to look for what is said, but what is deliberately not said. If anything, this fatwa, by its omissions and timing (or lack thereof) has simply reinforced the fact that the Islamists do not see Israel or Judeo-Christian America as 'innocent.' It has reaffirmed that they see us all as ripe for deceit and murder in the name of Allah.
You are a blessing to so many of us on this forum.
Thank you.
Do you also believe Islam is a peaceful, tolerant religion?
She sure is! and don't let the apologists bother you, I have it on good authority they have all volunteered to go and live in Iran and Bangladesh, they can't wait to get their hands cut off, get beaten to death in the street, or buried up to the chest and stoned if they are women. Have you ever noticed how it seems that all the aplogists are men? When did a female FReeper ever apologise for islam? I can't identify one, can you?
Bothers me a lot, that does. Is there a reason? Sorry guys, don't mean to be insulting, but the liberal male of the species seems to have a 'thing' about punishing women.
What utter BS, and a fine example of why your argument has holes all over it. I have not seen anyone on this thread say Christianity is supposed to be the only accepted religion on earth etc, but when one of the leaders of CAIR says it, you don't condemn it, but instead try and cover for it by applying it to another religion even though the shoe does not fit - on a thread about taquiyya and kitman no less. Interesting and duly noted.
And btw, haven't we had this discussion before?
Oh, please. Dispense with the hysterics.
What a great way to ignore the question and move your attention onto something else!
The first amendment is still intact.
Sure, but if CAIR and Co, has their way....
As for religious persecution, I suggest you take a closer look at the islamic religious freakdoms of the middle east and the life of the dhimmis there..
Is that what you are advocating?
You know that she's not. What the matter? Can't get anywhere in a debate without setting up a straw man argument or putting words into peoples mouths?
It's for fun for him that way. He can argue with himself instead of providing solutions to dealing with CAIR and their brethren.
Did I say 'It's for fun for him that way?'
Shall we try - 'It's more fun for him that way.'
You're right. We all know Islam has no history of religous persecution.
"Sorry guys, don't mean to be insulting, but the liberal male of the species seems to have a 'thing' about punishing women."
LOL! Probably because the liberal female of the species has been punishing men since the 1960's.
Thank you for conservative men who actually 'get it'!
From, a conservative woman.
You is one smart cookie! Now why didn't I think of that?
All right. I won the green frog tonight!
Thanks.
"Of course it's the liberal woman who has created the monster of the woman hating liberal man. I guess we can't blame them with all the abuse they have to take!"
LOL Jan, Fred is here. But where is TexasCowboy?
Where is a good ole Texas Cowboy when he is urgently needed to explain the 'Feminine Mistake' to us.
AND....what's the deal with this Dodger guy and the frog?
Former Dodger sent that green frog to me awhile back.....it might have been around the time Broadsword got let back on. I'm not sure, but I like that little green frog, and I miss TexasCowboy.
Where the heck are you TexasCowboy?
I'm guessing Texas is working....just a guess. We can save the question for when he comes back.
As for the frog, can't you see him clapping his hands? I think it means good job. But it might just be my imagination.
Let's ask.
Former Dodger, am I right? (check post #95)
"As for the frog, can't you see him clapping his hands? I think it means good job. But it might just be my imagination."
Yes, I DO see his hands clapping in freeze-frame. I especially like the sanguine look on his little face.
I still do.
The Theo killing touched a nerve in me too, Jan. I've been staying away from CBS News too, although I had to watch Rather's last broadcast, just in case he exploded.
I was watching the NCAA Tourney special, where my alma mater (Univ. of Illinois) was of course prominently featured. Go Illini!!
My youngest had a friend over, and they were playing Disney games on this computer, so I couldn't access the computer to give a "heads up."
Ayaan Hirsi Ali, the Dutch MP (and Muslim apostate) is very articulate and a greatspokerson against radical Islam.
Hi! I tried to find the little green frog for you but can't remember who it belonged to. Dark Skies sent me one ages ago, maybe he can do it again. Yohoo, Dark Skies, green froggy wanted here!
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