Posted on 03/13/2005 1:11:03 PM PST by jan in Colorado
In Islam, lying or omissions for the 'greater good,' according to a strict or radical Islam/Islamist philosophy is not only acceptable, it is holy and blessed work. It is called al-Takeyya (or al-Taqiyya) and is a strategy outlined in the Hadiths and supported by various interpretations of some of the Suras in the Koran. We have just seen it in action and most people never even caught the whiff of mental ether the Islamists were pouring into the airways of the already comatose and choking non-Islamist world.
Al-Takeyya is a policy whereby a Muslim may lie, deceive or omit critical truths if it promotes the spreading of Islam AND the conquest of the non-Muslim world. According to William P. Welty, Ph.D., al-Takeyya/Taqiyya is:
"The Islamic principle of lying for the sake of Allah. Falsehoods told to prevent denigration of Islam, to protect oneself, or to promote the cause of Islam are sanctioned by the Qur'an, including lying under penalty of perjury in testimony before the United States Congress, lying or making distorted statements to the media such as claiming that Islam is a religion of peace and deceiving fellow Muslims when the one lying has deemed them to be apostates." (1)
And here is the definition from an Islam encyclopedia website:
"The word "al-Taqiyya" literally means: "Concealing or disguising one's beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies..." (2)
Now here's where the latest Islamist sneak maneuver of al Takeyya/Taqiyya comes into play. The Islamic Commission of Spain issued a decree against al-Qaeda terrorist leader Osama bin Laden. They did this in response to the bombing of a Madrid train last year by al Qaeda.
Mansur Escudero, head of the Federation of Islamic Religious Entities, called on clerics to formally condemn terrorism and pray for all terror victims. He went on to state, ''The terrorist acts of Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda organization ... which result in the death of civilians, such as women and children ... are totally prohibited and are the object of strong condemnation within Islam.''
Sounds good so far.
But let's examine what this man did not say, as well as the timing of his little media-sensation fatwa.
This fatwa was timed to coincide with the 1-year anniversary of the bombing in Madrid. Sure, several hundred people died, but this is not the first time that hundreds, nay, thousands of people have died at the hands of Muslims merely because they weren't Muslim.
Therefore, one must ask why was there no such fatwa issued in the aftermath of 9-11? And why has no fatwa about the "...death of civilians, such as women and children'' ever been issued regarding the thousands upon thousands of Jewish/Israeli victims of genocidal terror ever been issued?
I will tell you why. This is al-Takeyya/Taqiyya at its most devious and deceptive. And the key word here is 'civilians.'
In radical Islam (Islamism), any Jew living in Israel is not considered either 'innocent' or a 'civilian.' Nor were the people living and working in America on 9-11. Islamists consider the 'Great Satan -- America,' and the 'Little Satan -- Israel,' to be enemy combatants. And this includes every man, woman or child, even babes in arms, even sleeping or in school or playing in playgrounds. This includes any and all who are not Islamists and who oppose being forced to kneel down and pay homage to Allah or his followers. In particular, Christians (whom they call 'Crusaders'), and Jews.
This also includes those of us who refuse to allow the Islamists to insidiously inject their politico-religious dogma into our way of life. And this especially includes Israel, whom the Islamists view as a polluting force in their quest for 'Arab unity' and a Judenrein Middle East.
So the fatwa issued by this Muslim cleric living in Spain was meant to put the free and civilized world into yet another coma. He was hoping we would see this supposedly 'peaceful and tolerant' religious edict and sing the praises of Islam and remind each other how it is a 'peaceful' religion, even though the word 'Islam' also means 'to submit,' and our utter and complete submission is what they are working towards.
The crafter of this latest religious edict, so proudly trumpeted to the world, has achieved nothing more than a clumsy attempt to delude us into thinking that Islamism is really nice and honorable and loving and peaceful. It is also meant to deceive us into believing that even though such edicts were never issued -- and will never be issued -- regarding Americans or Israelis, these particular Muslims are mainstream moderates.
Camel cakes! We are now familiar with the ploy of lying, omissions and deceit as sanctioned by al-Takeyya/Taqiyya. And some of us are not in a humanist/liberal feel-good coma like lambs going to the slaughter. And we will continue to alert you to the deceptions used by the Islamists.
The lesson to be learned here is not to look for what is said, but what is deliberately not said. If anything, this fatwa, by its omissions and timing (or lack thereof) has simply reinforced the fact that the Islamists do not see Israel or Judeo-Christian America as 'innocent.' It has reaffirmed that they see us all as ripe for deceit and murder in the name of Allah.
This is a most asinine question.
Read it and think :
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"
WE ALREADY "PROHIBIT THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF"
Female genital mutilation, which Muslims have made part of their "religion", is prohibited"
Honor killings within Muslim families are prohibited.
Decapitation of body parts as punishment for crimes is prohibited.
Stonings are prohibited.
Slaughter of infidels is prohibited.
These are all part of Islam, but they are not allowed to practice the "free exercise thereof".
In answer to your question:
Emphatically, YES!
OK, one more time.
Islam calls for the elimination, or at least servitude of those who do not convert to islam. That tenet, which the followers of the TROP have subscribed to willingly, is against every freedom of the US way of life and our laws.
In short, it seeks (as Texas Cowboy pointed out so well) to DOMINATE. And when they dominate. all will be forced to "submit" to the tenets of islam. Islam does not like competition.
If you cannot understand that---you aren't worth disucussing it with. I tire of those who scream bibot or intolerance when they seem to defend a "religion" that is both intolerant and bigoted. I do not want that "religion" to gather a foothold and destroy the freedoms you so highly tout.
That wasn't a very nice thing to say.
I'm still waiting for you to defend the idea we should wipe an entire religion off the face of the earth because some nut case terrorists commit atrocites in it's name.
Or did you forget what my original position was and still is in this thread?
Sure he does. How absurd. You should be embarrassed at the ridiculous accusations you make against other posters.
"Try to enjoy disagreeing with people on Free Republic. It's fun!"
theres diagreement-then there's submission to your way of thought, namely that islam is just another peacful type of religion that harms no one.
You are not disagreeing, but rather becoming disagreeable.
Ok OK! You blew my cover. You're just to clever for me:)
"Try to enjoy disagreeing with people on Free Republic. It's fun!"
BTWE, that also Sounds like something that DUmmies would say---not FReepers.
Can you say "Contrarian"?
Believe it or not, I've been here longer than you have.
I don't post to you, necessarily.
I post mainly for the lurkers who might be interested in the evil of Islam.
Bibot! BIBOT!
No, you should be embarrassed at the tripe you speak.
You are prretty good at slinging words like extremist and the like at others.
Bugger off!
Yeah, just like the DUmmies, all name calling and no ideas as to what to do...
If pointing out a typo is all you can respond with, you are either a fool, an apologist, or just plain ignorant.
Life is short. Try to enjoy disagreeing with people on Free Republic. It's fun!
Troll...sniff...?
I got the frog! I got the most Excellent frog, everybody, I got the frog of the day!
Yeah, seems to be we have a troll of long standing here.
Smells like lib, acts like a lib---it must be a lib!
Of course! You can believe in Islam freely!
If you don't, we'll chop your head off!
Yup!
You are a member of the Most Royal and Excellent Order of the Green Froggie! (MREOGF)
My congrats!
:-)
This is a most asinine question. Read it and think :
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" WE ALREADY "PROHIBIT THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF" Female genital mutilation, which Muslims have made part of their "religion", is prohibited"
Not all Muslims have made genital mutilation and honor killings part of their daily religious practice.
The idea that you would bring up extremist criminal activities as somehow showing that we actually DO prohit a religion is incredible.
I can't believe how weak your arguments are.
"Islam: Religon of Choice"
Yuppers! You get a choice all right!
:-)
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