Cop discharges Glock in Classroom

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[G32]

http://x3.putfile.com/videos/6608573980.wmv

Some safety instruction for our gun owner Freepers.

[G32]

Isn't the 'sporting clause' balony from the 1968 law? I sure wish that one would get repealed.

[yarddog]

Yes it is from that abomination the 1968 Gun Control Act.

Fascinating that although the points system did not forbid the importation of so called AK-47 assault rifles, President Bush Sr. with the stroke of a pen, banned a bunch of them after he suddenly discovered they were unsporting.

Just like Clinton, if you don't like the law, just change it with the stroke of a pen. I think Jr. has banned a bunch too.

[yarddog]

Agree completeley.

One minor correction, the Browning HP is a single action design.

It has the best, most comfortable grip of any gun imo.

[Onyxx]

First of all I'm glad he didn't shoot any children. Secondly I hope that the DEA (and the rest of us) make excellent use of this film clip as a training tool. If they do not fire this Agent then they should retrain and reassign him as an instructor teaching firearm safety. I'm quite sure that .40 in the leg has taught him a priceless lesson. There is no doubt that this ND could have been prevented.

Glocks. Either you love them or you hate them. I was trained Marine Corps M-1911A1 style (pleasant memory induced smile) however I do love my Glocks. As to which one provides the better safety/indicator/whatever....the only safety I trust is the one between my ears. Mechanical safeties lie and fail. All weapons are loaded. Always! Nothing mechanical can ever replace proper training. I used to wonder why we would spend hours "snapping in" or "dry firing" opposed to a third of the time firing live rounds. Good habits are developed before any rounds go down range.

It is obvious from this clip that the young Agent developed poor weapon handling habits and would have eventually shot himself or another Agent. Fortunate for everyone involved he shot himself first. Life is hard. It's even harder if you're stupid.

[Uri’el-2012]

but then the brain is the real safety device and this guys brain was obviously malfunctioning..... A Sig does have a much heavier DA trigger pull, so this idiot would have known (theoretically) that the gun was about to go boom.

Glock has an 8.5 pound trigger for slow LEOs

[Uri’el-2012]

All in all tho, I will take any Browning gun over just about any other.

One of the things I like about the Glock is the Browning lockup barrel.

It lowers the need for strong recoil springs. e.g blowbacks

I have not liked the 1911 since I first used one fifty years ago.

HPs are a much better design.

The 1911 was designed with 19th century metallurgy and materiel.

It was designed to stop suicidal Muslims in the Spanish American War.

OBTW: I have two Browning O/U shotguns

[Nov3]

The 1911 was designed with 19th century metallurgy and materiel.

Shows what a genius Browning was. The Special forces are returning to 1911's in the 21st century.

[Uri’el-2012]

Do the NRA rules and Colonel Cooper's rules address the same situation? Seems to me the NRA rules apply to hunting, while the colonel's rules apply to self-defense? So to say one set is superior to the other may be misleading?
237 posted on 03/09/2005 4:25:41 AM MST by rudy45

Jeff's rules were developed in WWII(1941 - 1945) by Jeff for grunts and dogfaces in foxholes.
As Jeff is on the board of directors of the NRA his rules were the first rules used by the NRA.
After years of ADs & NDs the Training Department, using learning methodology developed the current rules which have been the official training rules.
The current rules have significantly reduced ADs & NDs.

NRA Safe gun handling rules

Rule 1 Always keep the gun pointed in a safe direction.
Rule 2 Always keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot.
Rule 3 Always keep your gun unloaded until ready to use.

Jeff is not my icon for safety or combat training.

I prefer Massad Ayoob who endorses the NRA rules.

And OBTW is a better combat shooter and instructor than Jeff.

[Uri’el-2012]

Glock has made a very SPECIAL 12.5 pound triggers for really slow NYC LEOs

[ExSoldier]

Oh yeah! I totally forgot about the NYC Trigger from Glock. ~sigh~ As Joe Brower said: Well trained professional ping. DUH.

[archy]

The double action Browning Hi Power came out in 1930 or so, but was based on a John Moses Browning design and patent from the early 1920s.

The Model 35 9mm Browning pistol, commonly known as the *high power or grand puissance from its marketing name, is and has been a single-action semiautomatic design since its introduction in 1935 and adoption as a military service pistol in its native Belgium, Finland, Lithuania and nearly a hundred other nations at various times since then.

While its internal mechanism and linkless locked breech were indeed developed by John M. Browning happy to improve on the earlier success of his 1911 design without the required addition of the grip safety demanded by Army Ordnance, primarily as a safety requirement for mounted horsemen, the pistol also owes its worldwide success to at least two other additions: the refinement by FN engineer and designer Dieudonne Saive, who would go on to develop the SAFN semiautomatic rifle, the FN-MAG light machinegun, and the superb FN FAL rifle, another FN product to achieve global acceptance in most on the world's non-Soviet Bloc nations.

Neither was the fortuitous addition of the large-capacity magazine derived from the M1920 Estonian Tallin machinepistol any small feature, giving the weapon a magazine capacity of 13-17 rounds, depending on the manufacturer, twice that of competing weapons of the same caliber from the same period.

The ability to be fitted with a shoulder stock for use with a tangent adjustable sight was an additional benefit, of interest and use in a day when bolt action rifles were standard and pistol caliber submachineguns/ machinepistols were rare.

The Browning GP in that form sufficed well enough for the following four decades, until the widespread distribution of Walther's trigger-cocking P.38 service pistol was introduced to the world by the Nazi regime and its obedient German Army...which also used captured P.35 Brownings, if in lesser quantity. And though both gunsmith conversions and the later BDA factory version would eventually offer both the largish magazine capacity of the P.35 with a double action trigger, it wasn't until the introduction of the S&W Model 59 selfloader in the early 1970s that any great commercial demand for both features in a single design was accomodated.

The M1911, the P-35/GP, and the P.38 are all pretty nifty little handguns, with much to reccomend them to the individual or wholesale user. But trying to combine all the salient features into a single unit is a tricky process involving delicate balances, particularly if differing cartridge chamberings are considered. And much of the utility of the preceeding designs can be lost in the process.

I have much respect for the minds that gave us all three designs, and for most of the examples of their brainchildren that have passed through my hands over the last four and a half decades, and on which my life has depended a couple of times. And I don't feel terribly inconvenienced at all by carrying more than one at a time, should I need the superior sights of the P.38, or all those rounds in the magazine...and a spare!...of the P-35, or the reliability, power, and long-term maintainability of the M1911 and its variants, individually or in serial combination.

But I'm not a fan of *double-action* Brownings. Had that feature really been needed, Mr. Browning would have made them that way.

Thank you for your gifts to us Mr. Browning. And M'sieur Saive.

[Squantos]

Yep what archy said........maybe El Gato was thinkin of the BDA thang vs the BHP....?:o)

[Tijeras_Slim]

I think a lot of folks figure the Hi-Power to be DA because of how the trigger looks versus the 1911.

[Shooter 2.5]

I guess I'm going dumpster diving for all those 1911's that are suddenly soooo last century.

[He Rides A White Horse]

Thanks for the ping, Joe.

Same $h!t, different day.

It's the old, "when I make a mistake, let it be a lesson that mere civilians like yourselves are so much more incapable of handling such a responsibility".

[Squantos]

LOL.......I'll send ya a picture of 100K and you sell me yer house !

Logic ?........but I know what ya mean !

[daguberment]

"maybe he is like a dinosaur and it took several minutes for the information to be relayed to his tiny little brain."

That was pretty surprising indeed. Our little bro shot himself in the leg and all he does is snap his finger, as if to say "damn, I just be shoting myself in da' leg". Points for being a tough guy, points off for being an ignorant fool.

Are my tax dollars really being used for this kind of nut?