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Islam: Cult or Religion?
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| Ali Sina
Posted on 03/08/2005 1:36:13 PM PST by paltz
Islam is known as the second largest religion. The very fact that 1.2 billion people call themselves Muslims vests Islam with the mantel of legitimacy and confirms the claim that it is a religion. But is it?
Can 1.2 billion people be wrong? Well, in logic we have something called "argumentum ad numerum". It states that something is true if a lot of people believe in it. But argumentum ad numerum is a logical fallacy. Truth cannot be established by the consensus of the majority. In fact many arguments have been proven to be false, even though everyone in the world once accepted them as true. For example, not until a few centuries ago everyone believed that the Earth is flat and is at the centre of the universe. Despite that common belief both geocentricity and the idea of the flat Earth were false. A false belief does not become true even if everyone thinks they are true.
Therefore, not only 1.2 billion people, but the entire mankind can be wrong. As Bertrand Russell said: The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible. (Source)
After shattering the myth of argumentum ad numerum, let us put Islam under scrutiny and see whether it is a religion or a cult.
The following is a description of what cult is:
- A cult is a religious group with extreme beliefs and practices - beliefs that are often contrary to science and logic but they are believed as "obvious" truth by the cult members.
- The members of cults often isolate themselves from friends, family and society and use deceptive and unethical recruiting techniques
- Use manipulative methods to control the minds of followers
- Venerate a human leader or leaders
- Recruiting work is performed by all of the members
- People are not allowed to criticize the leader, the doctrine, or the organization, or read information that is critical of the cult.
- Members are trained to reject and disbelieve criticism of the cult as lies from Satan.
- Members spy on one another and report improper activities or comments to leaders.
- Members are taught to suppress anything which might reflect negatively to outsiders about the cult.
- The doctrine is absolutist and the ideology is internalized as "the Truth."
- Members are told to avoid contact with ex-members or critics, even their relatives.
- Members are instilled with a deep fear about ever leaving the organization, and anyone who does depart is of the devil and sometimes severely punished.
- Members are emotional controlled and warned of being caught and punished.
- Disciplinary action is administered by group leaders, which may involve excommunication for such things as questioning organization policy or doctrine.
- People are encouraged to sacrifice education, career and family interests to server the interests of the cult.
- Advocate socializing only with other members in the organization and avoiding outsiders.
- The belief in apocalypse and Dooms Day.
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All these traits are present in Islam.
- Islam claims to be a religion with strong devotion to Muhammad and a set of unsubstantiated doctrines presented by him. Monotheism is used as a pretext to exert absolute control over the believers, leaving them no chance to question or investigate alternative paths.
- Muhammad forced his followers to leave their families (8:72) and gathered them in Yathrib. He said: And those who believed but did not leave their homes, ye have no duty to protect them till they leave their homes. He warned those who did not follow him, leaving behind their families, will be cursed by Allah and their habitation will be hell(4:97). Muhammad went as far as to order his followers to murder those Muslims who defected his barricade.(4:89)
In Yathrib he banished and killed the Jews who did not believe in him, thus eliminating the chance of his followers coming in contact with outsiders and being influenced by anyone. In this way he exerted absolute control over the lives and the minds of his followers. Jim Jones did the same. He called his town "Jonestown". Muhammad changed the name of Yathirb to Madinatul Nabi (Prophets Town)
- He used manipulative methods to control the minds of his followers. These methods ranged from threat of hellfire, and promises of paradise, to exhaustive rituals of prayers and fasts, devised to numb the thought, and threat of physical punishment including execution and constant warfare, keeping his followers in perpetual state of agitation.
- He established himself as the sole authority among his followers and the only source of guidance to the extent that they looked up to him for every detail of their lives, including how to dress, how to shave, how to pray and even how to urinate and how to clean after bowl movement. Ostensibly the worship was to God but effectively he was the only object of veneration of his followers and the only authority. Nominally God was to be obeyed but he was God's proxy, thus assuming the authority of God.
- All believers were asked to promote his cause through Jihad, propaganda or by giving generously from their wealth. 4:95, 9:20, 49:15, 61:11
- The criticism of Muhammad and Islam was totally prohibited and if anyone dared to question him or his decisions, Omar swiftly unshielded his sword and threatened to slash the throat of the intrepid questioner forcing him to apologize. The message was sent in a very clear tone that no one must question Muhammad and his authority. 1400 years later, the message remains the same. If you question Islam you will be killed.
- Muslims are told to dismiss any criticism of Islam as coming from Satan and they often avoid reading critical views about their Faith. I have received testimonies of apostates who confessed that at first when they came across this site they stopped reading it and dismissed it as the work of Satan. See this I myself never read any book critical of Islam and once frowned at a friend who expressed her curiosity about Salman Rushdie's Satanic Verses.
- Muslims are encouraged to spy on each other and report any sign of dissent. Amr bil Maroof wa Nahi anil Munkir (Commanding to follow the religion and preventing from doing what is prohibited) is a tenet of Islam. Every Muslim is required to poke his nose in the private lives of others, spy on them and tell them what they should do and what they should not do. Every Muslim is an enforcer of religion and the moral police for others.
- Muslims suppress anything that might present Islam in negative light. Preserving the image of Islam is of utmost importance and Muslims lie with clarity of conscience to misrepresent their religion and make it look good. For example women in Islam are treated like animals and are considered as deficient in intelligence. Every Muslim knows that including the women, who blame the men for it but not the Islam. But they lie through their teeth bragging about the "elevated" status of women in Islam. Jihad means aggressive war to expand Islam. Every Muslim knows that. Yet all of them lie and say Jihad means "self defense". A couple of years ago I received a very angry email from a Muslim who cursed me for revealing the fact that Muhammad had slept with a 9-year old child and at the end he said the damage is already done and I will be certainly punished for what I had done. The fact that Muhammad slept with a child did not bother this Muslim but what bothered him was revealing this fact.
- Islam is extremely absolutist and Muslims believe that it is the only true religion. This truth however is not self evident. It is "true" because Muhammad said so.
- Muslims are told to shun the apostates and the critics of Islam. New converts are often circled and are isolated from their non-Muslim family and friends. They are showered with love and receive a lot of emotional support until the brainwashing is complete.
- Muslims are instilled with the fear of leaving Islam. This fear comes in two forms. One is the fear of Hell and of eternal punishment and the other is the fear of being caught and put to death by fellow Muslims, including their best friends and family.
- Those who leave Islam must live in constant threat of being discovered and killed. In Muslims Comments section of this site you can see that Muslims often talk about this fear and say they pity me for having to look over my shoulders all the time and live in fear of being assassinated. The values are so distorted that they do not pity themselves for being the assassins but pity me for having to live in their fear.
- In Islam disciplinary action includes beating, maiming, stoning, beheading or jail. Excommunication is for minor offenses. The poet Kab and two others were excommunicated for fifty days and during that time no one spoke to them. Kabs wife was told to leave him and wherever he went people ignored him as if he was invisible. All this, because he did not accompany Muhammad in the war of Tabutk.
- Muslims are told to sacrifice their comfort, their wealth and including their lives to promote Islam. Young men are encouraged to leave their studies and work, wage Jihad, and commit suicide bombing to make Islam dominant. Family and even children are regarded as "tests" of the believers. To prove their loyalty to Allah, they must be able to forgo all these "worldly attachments" and get ready to sacrifice their lives in the cause of Islam.
- Muslims are discouraged to take friends from amongst the unbelievers even if these unbelievers are their kin. 3:28 They are told the unbelievers are najis (filthy) 9:28 and that the believers should not associate with them.
- The belief in the Day of Judgment and the Dooms Day is one of the pillars of the Islamic Faith.
Based on the above, Islam is a cult. It is the biggest and the most successful cult. It practically reunites every feature of cult. Other cults may not be cultic in some of the above points. But Islam is cultic in every way and it would be a gross mistake to number it among religions just because 1.2 billion benighted people call themselves Muslims.
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To: conserv13
And I believe it, but I won't kill you if you don't.
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posted on
03/08/2005 2:06:45 PM PST
by
kalee
(Kalee's Tinfoil Bonnets, purveyor of stylish tinfoil millinery since 2000.)
To: John Lenin
Agreed, it's a death cult.
42
posted on
03/08/2005 2:06:56 PM PST
by
tomahawk
To: USF
Thx for the ping, USF. This looks like it might get lively.
43
posted on
03/08/2005 2:07:21 PM PST
by
Dark Skies
("The sleeper must awaken!")
To: paltz
You can't tell me this is a serious question really now is it??
44
posted on
03/08/2005 2:19:52 PM PST
by
Indie
(Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
To: paltz
45
posted on
03/08/2005 2:20:35 PM PST
by
Jeff Gordon
(Recall Barbara Boxer)
To: paltz
To: drt1
Unfortunately, science and technology are not about to grant us that much time for this Cauldron to cool off.Yup. And, there's the rub.
47
posted on
03/08/2005 2:23:59 PM PST
by
Dark Skies
("The sleeper must awaken!")
To: Dark Skies; cardinal4
Cult, clearly. Any "organization" who believes that their God, the loving father of all of us would reward some of his children for slaughtering other of his children, deserves the term CULT. A human-sacrificing CULT.
48
posted on
03/08/2005 2:24:19 PM PST
by
Ax
(I learned all I needed to know about Islam during my two years in Saudi Arabia.)
To: Jeff Gordon
49
posted on
03/08/2005 2:25:15 PM PST
by
spyone
50
posted on
03/08/2005 2:26:35 PM PST
by
meema
To: conserv13
"Jesus walked on water, rose from the dead, and turned water in to wine. He was born of a virgin birth."
You confuse articles of Faith, that REQUIRE faith because they ARE miraculous (ie: go against that which is known to be true) with pig head 7th century enforced stipidity or outright unreasoning impossibility that a cult may resort to to serve its ends.
None of the things Jesus did was unreasonable per se, just damned unlikley or impossible.
Jesus doing these things has the desired effect. If He had, say, walked down the street instead of walking on water no one would have been terribly impressed.
51
posted on
03/08/2005 2:31:15 PM PST
by
TalBlack
To: conserv13
modern Chrisitanity????
No, it would not, at least not if you are honest. Pre-Reformantion....then we could talk.
To: Junior
If this is the best work these folks can put out on this subject... This piece is written by Ali Sina, a woman and former Muslim. Check out her website faithfreedom.org and I think you will see that she is the genuine article.
53
posted on
03/08/2005 2:42:25 PM PST
by
Dark Skies
("The sleeper must awaken!")
To: USF; jan in Colorado; Fred Nerks; AmericanArchConservative
54
posted on
03/08/2005 2:49:28 PM PST
by
Dark Skies
("The sleeper must awaken!")
To: John Lenin
Liberalism is definitely a cult
According to the specified criteria, some offshoot Christian groups meet the requirements, as do the Lubavitcher Hasidim (Judaism), who believe the deceased Grand Rebbe Menachem Schneerson is the Messiah and will rise again
The North Korean "worship" of little Kim (the Looney, not the Floozie) is a Cult.
There are the Hindu-related personality cults, like Sri Chinmoy's group and other Mahareeshi types.
There's the Buddhist-related cults, like the Giant Japanese guy who set off the Sarin in the Tokyo subway system.
In some ways the believers of the Virgen of Medjugorie are a Roman Catholic cult, although I don't think they threaten non-believers.
A CULT is generally an offshoot of a major religion, people who think they alone have the "ear of God" so to speak, and that fact makes them dangerous sinc all their action are based on the will of God and everyone should listen to them.
Most of Islam IS a CULT, the offshoots are the reasonable ones.
55
posted on
03/08/2005 3:07:04 PM PST
by
Former Dodger
("The high-minded man must care more for the truth than for what people think." --Aristotle)
To: paltz
Allah is not The God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob
Allah is the Moon god... hence the crescent moon symbol on many Islamic nation flags
This is the pagan religion of ancient Babylon..of the god called Sin (Baal) and Ishtar/Isis
god and goddess of the desert regions and ancient Egypt
Mohamed was basically a Hebrew wannabe who was rejected as was Ishmael
his so called revelations were by his own admission demonic
Islam is basically a mishmash of pagan moon god cult and some elements of Judaism
Islam claims to honor Jesus Christ yet denies the very words Jesus said about himself
Islam also claims Jesus was not crucified, dead, buried or resurrected from the dead...
Islam claims Jesus is NOT the Son of the living God
Is not God the Son
Is not the ONLY way to salvation
And claims Jesus is equal to Mohamed
Islam call Christ...Liar
Islam denies the deity of Christ and the ONLY salvation plan of God
Jesus also said those who LOVE DEATH HATE GOD..and By their fruits you will know them...
Often the real God the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob used these pagans to bring his righteous judgment against those who turned their back on Him and denied Him his rightful place among his people..
America has turned its back on its true founder Jesus Christ
and God has allowed those who he uses to chastise believers to now move freely among us..and to peddle influence to our political 'leaders'
Those who love death hate God
40 million + dead pre born American children since Roe V Wade
Judgment is nearly upon us...God will not be mocked
IMO
56
posted on
03/08/2005 3:07:59 PM PST
by
joesnuffy
(If GW had been driving....Mary Jo would still be with us...)
To: paltz
The very fact that 1.2 billion people call themselves Muslims vests Islam with the mantel of legitimacy and confirms the claim that it is a religion. But is it? A lie is a lie even if everyone believes it
The truth is the truth even if NO one believes it
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posted on
03/08/2005 3:09:35 PM PST
by
joesnuffy
(If GW had been driving....Mary Jo would still be with us...)
To: 7.62 x 51mm
The Islamonazi-apologists try repeatedly to reassure us about the "religion of peace" but:
Why is the religion of peace directly responsible for 28 out of the 30 violent conflicts raging in the world today?
Why is the religion of peace responsible for the vast majority of chattel slavery in the world today?
Why is the religion of peace responsible for the vast majority of terrorism in the 20th and 21st Centuries?
Why are the practitioners of the religion of peace routinely slaughtering unarmed practitioners of every other religion wherever they can get away with it?
Why does the religion of peace call for the murder of anyone who converts from the religion of peace to another religion?
Why do so many of the believers of the religion of peace look forward to the opportunity to rape 72 virgins in heaven if they die while killing innocent women and children of other religions? Is it a god they worship, or just sex? If a god, then shouldnt heaven have more to do with him than their libidos?
Why do the leaders of the religion of peace routinely issue fatwas (death warrants) for anybody who questions their holy book of peace and their holy prophet of peace?
Why is the religion of peace responsible for the sexual mutilation of millions of little girls and the savage oppression of women?
Why did millions of the practitioners of the religion of peace laugh, cheer and dance in the street because 3,000 innocent men, women and children were murdered by seventeen men who supposedly hijacked the religion of peace? And why dont the real practitioners of the religion of peace condemn the supposed hijackers of their religion? Why the deafening silence? Why the smiles? Why the cheers and high fives?
Perhaps I just dont understand this whole PEACE thing. Did the definition of the word change, or is somebody just blowing a lot of smoke?
Click here and never forget the face of Islam and what it wants for you infidels.
Here's another one.
58
posted on
03/08/2005 3:20:42 PM PST
by
broadsword
(You don't deal with a cancer by only dealing with the cells that are painful. Cut them ALL out!)
To: Arrowhead1952
59
posted on
03/08/2005 3:21:19 PM PST
by
backhoe
(-30-)
To: ABN 505
Yeah, TROP is subhuman filth. Plain and simple.
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posted on
03/08/2005 3:28:24 PM PST
by
7.62 x 51mm
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