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Islam: Cult or Religion?
faithfreedom.org ^ | Ali Sina

Posted on 03/08/2005 1:36:13 PM PST by paltz

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To: conserv13

And I believe it, but I won't kill you if you don't.


41 posted on 03/08/2005 2:06:45 PM PST by kalee (Kalee's Tinfoil Bonnets, purveyor of stylish tinfoil millinery since 2000.)
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To: John Lenin

Agreed, it's a death cult.


42 posted on 03/08/2005 2:06:56 PM PST by tomahawk
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To: USF

Thx for the ping, USF. This looks like it might get lively.


43 posted on 03/08/2005 2:07:21 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: paltz
You can't tell me this is a serious question really now is it??
44 posted on 03/08/2005 2:19:52 PM PST by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: paltz

45 posted on 03/08/2005 2:20:35 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (Recall Barbara Boxer)
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To: paltz

cult


46 posted on 03/08/2005 2:20:43 PM PST by moehoward
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To: drt1
Unfortunately, science and technology are not about to grant us that much time for this Cauldron to cool off.

Yup. And, there's the rub.

47 posted on 03/08/2005 2:23:59 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Dark Skies; cardinal4

Cult, clearly. Any "organization" who believes that their God, the loving father of all of us would reward some of his children for slaughtering other of his children, deserves the term CULT. A human-sacrificing CULT.


48 posted on 03/08/2005 2:24:19 PM PST by Ax (I learned all I needed to know about Islam during my two years in Saudi Arabia.)
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To: Jeff Gordon

Jeff, what's it mean?


49 posted on 03/08/2005 2:25:15 PM PST by spyone
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bttt


50 posted on 03/08/2005 2:26:35 PM PST by meema
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To: conserv13

"Jesus walked on water, rose from the dead, and turned water in to wine. He was born of a virgin birth."

You confuse articles of Faith, that REQUIRE faith because they ARE miraculous (ie: go against that which is known to be true) with pig head 7th century enforced stipidity or outright unreasoning impossibility that a cult may resort to to serve its ends.

None of the things Jesus did was unreasonable per se, just damned unlikley or impossible.

Jesus doing these things has the desired effect. If He had, say, walked down the street instead of walking on water no one would have been terribly impressed.


51 posted on 03/08/2005 2:31:15 PM PST by TalBlack
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To: conserv13
modern Chrisitanity????

No, it would not, at least not if you are honest. Pre-Reformantion....then we could talk.

52 posted on 03/08/2005 2:34:36 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Junior
If this is the best work these folks can put out on this subject...

This piece is written by Ali Sina, a woman and former Muslim. Check out her website faithfreedom.org and I think you will see that she is the genuine article.

53 posted on 03/08/2005 2:42:25 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: USF; jan in Colorado; Fred Nerks; AmericanArchConservative

Full credit for pic to faithfreedom.org

54 posted on 03/08/2005 2:49:28 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: John Lenin
Liberalism is definitely a cult

According to the specified criteria, some offshoot Christian groups meet the requirements, as do the Lubavitcher Hasidim (Judaism), who believe the deceased Grand Rebbe Menachem Schneerson is the Messiah and will rise again

The North Korean "worship" of little Kim (the Looney, not the Floozie) is a Cult.

There are the Hindu-related personality cults, like Sri Chinmoy's group and other Mahareeshi types.

There's the Buddhist-related cults, like the Giant Japanese guy who set off the Sarin in the Tokyo subway system.

In some ways the believers of the Virgen of Medjugorie are a Roman Catholic cult, although I don't think they threaten non-believers.

A CULT is generally an offshoot of a major religion, people who think they alone have the "ear of God" so to speak, and that fact makes them dangerous sinc all their action are based on the will of God and everyone should listen to them.

Most of Islam IS a CULT, the offshoots are the reasonable ones.

55 posted on 03/08/2005 3:07:04 PM PST by Former Dodger ("The high-minded man must care more for the truth than for what people think." --Aristotle)
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To: paltz
Allah is not The God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob

Allah is the Moon god... hence the crescent moon symbol on many Islamic nation flags

This is the pagan religion of ancient Babylon..of the god called Sin (Baal) and Ishtar/Isis

god and goddess of the desert regions and ancient Egypt


Mohamed was basically a Hebrew wannabe who was rejected as was Ishmael

his so called revelations were by his own admission demonic
Islam is basically a mishmash of pagan moon god cult and some elements of Judaism

Islam claims to honor Jesus Christ yet denies the very words Jesus said about himself

Islam also claims Jesus was not crucified, dead, buried or resurrected from the dead...

Islam claims Jesus is NOT the Son of the living God
Is not God the Son

Is not the ONLY way to salvation
And claims Jesus is equal to Mohamed

Islam call Christ...Liar

Islam denies the deity of Christ and the ONLY salvation plan of God

Jesus also said those who LOVE DEATH HATE GOD..and By their fruits you will know them...

Often the real God the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob used these pagans to bring his righteous judgment against those who turned their back on Him and denied Him his rightful place among his people..

America has turned its back on its true founder Jesus Christ
and God has allowed those who he uses to chastise believers to now move freely among us..and to peddle influence to our political 'leaders'

Those who love death hate God

40 million + dead pre born American children since Roe V Wade

Judgment is nearly upon us...God will not be mocked

IMO
56 posted on 03/08/2005 3:07:59 PM PST by joesnuffy (If GW had been driving....Mary Jo would still be with us...)
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To: paltz
The very fact that 1.2 billion people call themselves Muslims vests Islam with the mantel of legitimacy and confirms the claim that it is a religion. But is it?

A lie is a lie even if everyone believes it

The truth is the truth even if NO one believes it

57 posted on 03/08/2005 3:09:35 PM PST by joesnuffy (If GW had been driving....Mary Jo would still be with us...)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm
The Islamonazi-apologists try repeatedly to reassure us about the "religion of peace" but:

Why is the religion of peace directly responsible for 28 out of the 30 violent conflicts raging in the world today?

Why is the religion of peace responsible for the vast majority of chattel slavery in the world today?

Why is the religion of peace responsible for the vast majority of terrorism in the 20th and 21st Centuries?

Why are the practitioners of the religion of peace routinely slaughtering unarmed practitioners of every other religion wherever they can get away with it?

Why does the religion of peace call for the murder of anyone who converts from the religion of peace to another religion?

Why do so many of the believers of the religion of peace look forward to the opportunity to rape 72 virgins in heaven if they die while killing innocent women and children of other religions? Is it a god they worship, or just sex? If a god, then shouldn’t heaven have more to do with him than their libidos?

Why do the leaders of the religion of peace routinely issue fatwas (death warrants) for anybody who questions their holy book of peace and their holy prophet of peace?

Why is the religion of peace responsible for the sexual mutilation of millions of little girls and the savage oppression of women?

Why did millions of the practitioners of the religion of peace laugh, cheer and dance in the street because 3,000 innocent men, women and children were murdered by seventeen men who supposedly “hijacked” the religion of peace? And why don’t the real practitioners of the religion of peace condemn the supposed “hijackers” of their religion? Why the deafening silence? Why the smiles? Why the cheers and high fives?

Perhaps I just don’t understand this whole PEACE thing. Did the definition of the word change, or is somebody just blowing a lot of smoke?




Click here and never forget the face of Islam and what it wants for you infidels.

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58 posted on 03/08/2005 3:20:42 PM PST by broadsword (You don't deal with a cancer by only dealing with the cells that are painful. Cut them ALL out!)
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To: Arrowhead1952

59 posted on 03/08/2005 3:21:19 PM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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To: ABN 505

Yeah, TROP is subhuman filth. Plain and simple.


60 posted on 03/08/2005 3:28:24 PM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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