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1 posted on 03/07/2005 8:32:46 PM PST by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc
The survey has supported what Christians themselves have been saying for decades, that there is little point in attending a church whose message is no different from that of the materialistic secular world.

Amen.

2 posted on 03/07/2005 8:36:41 PM PST by wallcrawlr (www.bionicear.com)
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To: quidnunc

Geeze who would a thunk it. Think there's a message there that might get through the secularist Pharisees and Sagisees?


3 posted on 03/07/2005 8:37:16 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: quidnunc

Preach true Christianity in England and get arrested for a hate crime..

Preach hate filled anti Christian anti semite Islam or Pro sodomite pedophile Pagan witchcraft and get your own tv special

imo


4 posted on 03/07/2005 8:37:22 PM PST by joesnuffy (If GW had been driving....Mary Jo would still be with us...)
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To: quidnunc
"The results of the year-long survey of 14,000 UK residents by the interdenominational Ecumenical Research Committee has been called ‘surprising’ by mainstream secular and Christian media. The overwhelming response is to call on churches “to robustly defend moral values with conviction and courage and cease being ‘silent’ and ‘lukewarm’ in the face of moral and social collapse.”

Even here in my neck of the woods--northern Illinois-- those churches with a reputation for taking the Gospel seriously are bursting at the seams with new members, while the old luke-warm mainline denominations mainly cater to the elderly who grew up in their churches and who couldn't possibly entertain the idea of going somewhere else...

5 posted on 03/07/2005 8:42:57 PM PST by Ronzo (God Bless & Protect all of our troops, wherever they serve.)
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To: quidnunc

If you stand for nothing, nothing will happen.


6 posted on 03/07/2005 8:43:58 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: quidnunc

So the usual line that America is a more religous country than European countries may be false?


8 posted on 03/07/2005 9:00:20 PM PST by etcetera (No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom, unless he be vigilant in its preservation.)
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To: BibChr

ping


9 posted on 03/07/2005 9:06:04 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: quidnunc

Thanks for this post.

I only hope my former pastor in Phoenix
could see this.


11 posted on 03/07/2005 9:19:46 PM PST by righttackle44
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To: quidnunc

The pews are not empty in Africa and China. In fact, there are no pews in China, because the churches meet in homes due to the communist government persecution of anyone who does not attend the "Three Self PAtriotic Movement" church, or the national bogus facade church.

Asia and Africa are leading Christianity today as Europe whithers, heaves and dies.


13 posted on 03/07/2005 9:33:06 PM PST by Conservatrix (He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.)
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To: quidnunc

INTREP - ISCHABOD


14 posted on 03/07/2005 9:33:41 PM PST by LiteKeeper (The radical secularization of America is happening)
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To: quidnunc

Wow...This explains a LOT. What a great survey!


16 posted on 03/07/2005 11:06:37 PM PST by lainde ( ...We are NOT European, we are American, and we have different principles!")
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To: quidnunc; Quix
the emptying of the churches has been caused mainly by preaching and pastoral care that has been emptied of moral or doctrinal Christian content.

You can say that again! Same in the US! WOuldn't want to preach against homos or abortion..might offend some collection plate doners.

17 posted on 03/08/2005 2:11:13 AM PST by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: quidnunc

If the Brits disestablished the C of E things would begin to change.


22 posted on 03/08/2005 1:22:58 PM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: quidnunc

This appears to refer mainly to the Anglican church. I wonder about other denominations (such as Jehovah's Witnesses, Baptists, Mormons and fundamentalists) which take a more moral approach.


31 posted on 03/08/2005 8:37:41 PM PST by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: Tantumergo; american colleen; sinkspur; Phx_RC; kstewskis

For different reasons,I think each of you will find this thread very interesting and in one case,disturbing.


37 posted on 03/09/2005 9:15:33 PM PST by saradippity
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To: quidnunc

1 Cor 2:2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.


39 posted on 03/09/2005 9:22:30 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: quidnunc

When I was in London several years ago, I saw at least a few large, pro-Christian advertisements painted on the walls of the underground (subway). I forget what they said exactly, but they made a strong, positive impression on me. It seemed a strange thing to see amid the trains, grime and bustle of the secular world, but it also made me wonder about the people who paid to put them up. I thought, surely the Lord's people are still in this land.


57 posted on 03/11/2005 12:06:51 AM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: quidnunc

I quit a local supposedly Christian church when a visiting minister showed up a month after the election sporting a black "Bush won" mourning ribbon on his lapel and began his "sermon" with a quote from Karl Marx. I wasn't the only one who quit.

The Catholics in my town are the only ones adhering to any kind of consistent theological, moral message. The rest are left-wing loons, some more pleasant, some more intelligent than others, but in the aggregate, loons. Could be that's why Catholicism is gaining converts and "reconverts" despite their problem with gay priests.

All churches need to get rid of leftist loons and gays in the clergy. Then they'd fill up again on Sundays.


58 posted on 03/11/2005 12:17:53 AM PST by Veto! (Opinions Freely Dispensed as Advice)
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To: quidnunc
The overwhelming response is to call on churches “to robustly defend moral values with conviction and courage and cease being ‘silent’ and ‘lukewarm’ in the face of moral and social collapse.”

Seconded.

62 posted on 03/11/2005 8:38:13 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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