[wallcrawlr]

The survey has supported what Christians themselves have been saying for decades, that there is little point in attending a church whose message is no different from that of the materialistic secular world.

Amen.

[tiki]

I used to call my church The Methodist Social Club. It was all about driving the shiny car, wearing the most expensive clothes, making sure the right people saw you there and no real beliefs. We had a minister for time who didn't even believe in God!

Secular Humanism has taken over our churches too.