Alan Keyes scheduled to appear today on the Michael Medved Show to discuss the Terry Schiavo case

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[EveningStar]

Alan Keyes is scheduled to appear on Michael Medved's show today to discuss the Terry Schiavo case. Medved frequently disagrees with Keyes, but not on this topic. According to the RenewAmerica site, Keyes will be appearing in the second hour of Michael's show which is broadcast live 3-6 Eastern / Noon-3 Pacific. Here is a list of stations where you can hear Michael's show. You can also hear him live on the web.

I can't believe that I'm actually posting a Keyes thread.

[beaversmom]

Thanks Eveningstar. Aother Michael Medved ping.

[beaversmom]

oops should have been "another" MM ping.

[8mmMauser]

I would think that is minimal. If she had long hair, it would be a real bother to the nurses or whomever are caring for her.

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[Brian Allen]

<< I read many of them, and the man writes and speaks as eloquently as any man alive. I have always been disappointed that he does not do better in presidential primary contests. >>

Me, too -- he does -- and me, too!

[edcoil]

You can't crease your own skids - that is the only sin God says he will not forgive - you cannot take yourself out.

[Wampus SC]

Gallagher, Beck, Liddy, Hannity, Savage & Noory so far.

See daily thread #2524.

[8mmMauser]

You are right in that respect, I would never intentionally contribute to my own demise in fear of the sin.

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[Pepper777]

Thank you so much for the heads up on this program. An excellent caller is on right now. I'm so happy to hear Keyes *telling it like it IS * about Terri and HINO.

Go Dr Keyes~!!!!

[EveningStar]

Keyes and Medved have been quite good and impassioned. It's been a very compelling and thought provoking hour.

[LauraJean]

I am glad I listened. I found the doctor from California quite chilling. By his way of thinking the depressed would never have a chance to rethink their feelings of suicide and the anorexic would never have to be forced to eat.

[Lauren BaRecall]

Keyes: Court doesn't have the final word.

Michael's conflicts of interest: the malpractice award, and Michael's promise to take care of Terri for the rest of HIS life.

Terri's not on life support.

Medved read a letter sent to him from Terri's dad: "My daughter is not in a coma...."

Keyes: "It's judicially sanctioned murder!" Governor has separate will to act according to his oath. Courts can't enforce judgments without the cooperation of the executive branch. Executive and legislative branches can disagree with the judicial branch, because they are separate *co-equal* branches. The judge does not have the final word - if he did, the executive branch would be subordinated to the judicial branch.

Keyes is just an interested party, not affiliated with the Schindlers, but has been in touch with them. He is also interested in the issues.

Caller Joe (Spoke like a lib - all over the place - if I was his wife, I'd go willingly! LOL!): Disagrees with Keyes re the executive branch. Caller & wife have agreed to "let each other go."

Keyes: "Does the husband as guardian have the right to take his wife's life," is the argument. NOT is she PVS, etc. Life support vs nourishment. Feeding someone is not a medical procedure, and it has been the common understanding through the years that the withholding of nourishment is murder.

Caller (man pro Terri - sounds like a FReeper): Could Bush disregard judges decision? Surround Terri with law enforcement?

Keyes: No one could oppose the Governor, because law enforcement is under him.

Medved: Mentions that starvation/dehydration is a horrible death.

Caller (A doctor who had withdrawn a number of feeding tubes): Terri's quality of life argument, "and the husband would generally, in this case, Michael, would know her best. It's done every day in America."

Keyes: Feeding is not a medical procedure, and Florida statutes prohibit its withdrawal. If you're saying that it's extraordinary life support, then you can kill anyone!

Caller Doctor says that Keyes is in the minority, legally and ethically, and that Keyes' position is a *moral* one.

Medved: Guardianship even though Michael is living with someone?

Keyes: The conflict should be challenged.

Medved: If there is a written directive is there a difference?

Keyes: Must be careful with that. How natural a death is dehydration? Also, would we want it to be regarded as natural, if a parent starves their child?

Woman Caller: Can't kill dogs by starvation. Her husband is in the hospital. She threatened doctors with a law suit if they refused him treatment based on his say-so. She made the point that when people are ill they're not in their right minds, and can't rationally decide against treatment.

Keyes mentioned that after Michael won the $$$ award, he has used an off-chance comment to establish that Terri said she wanted to die (Keyes sounded like he thought she may have made a casual comment).

Caller (woman): Why doesn't someone ask Michael, "Why do you want to kill your wife?"

Medved: Her parents...[mentions the award]...Keyes: Says that most of the award has gone to pay the lawyers.

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I'm not a transcriber, so that's the gist of it. I'm pooped.

[Lauren BaRecall]

Recap of Keyes interview ping - post # 71.

[Lauren BaRecall]

MY take:

Gallagher = Chip on shoulder. I don't like his Teed Off attitude. Glad he left NY.

Beck = Good guy pro Terri (I learned about her from him), good show, no longer in NY. :o(

Liddy = Don't know his show, no opinion.

Hannity = Sell out CINO.

Savage = Calls 'em as he sees 'em. Good and interesting.

Noory = out there, no thanks.

[candeee]

Thanks a bunch!

[Lauren BaRecall]

You're welcome! :o)

[Lauren BaRecall]

I found the doctor to be morally repulsive. Remember when he told about his patient who didn't want an amputation? The doctor's attitude was like, "Oh, okaaaaaaaaay."

Good gravy!

Newspeak: ethical = unethical

[WillRain]

What most people don't realize is that, despite how little time he had to make a race, Keyes actually got a vote total quite comparable with other Illinois GOP Senate and Governor candidates. the reason he lost so badly as a percentage has much more to do with an aberrationally high number of voters turning out to vote for the Golden Boy than that Keyes got an unusually low number.

Based just on raw votes, Keyes did about as well - in a much more difficult campaign - as any other Republican had been doing (Fitzgerald's ability to capitalize on the Braun disaster notwithstanding).

[supercat]

What most people don't realize is that, despite how little time he had to make a race, Keyes actually got a vote total quite comparable with other Illinois GOP Senate and Governor candidates. the reason he lost so badly as a percentage has much more to do with an aberrationally high number of voters turning out to vote for the Golden Boy than that Keyes got an unusually low number.

Keyes got stomped. I forget what the exact numbers were, but Keyes' problem wasn't just that Bush voters didn't vote for him, but rather that a lot of Bush voters voted for Obama. Of course, the reason Keyes was chosen as a candidate was that there was no risk of him actually winning. The GOP leadership didn't want a real Republican to win the Senate seat; that's why the final two choices were a Democrat and Alan Keyes.

[WillRain]

The thing that gets me about that is that, whoever's doing it, (including Keyes himself) why can't conservatives say of conservatives "I strongly disagree! I think it's a horrible idea! Maybe the person hasn't really thought it through but here's what I see wrong with it..." rather than using phrases like "embarrassment to the party" and "Republicans made a sad mistake" and "racist show-boating and his carpet-bagging opportunism"???

Why can't we reserve such rhetoric for liberals?

I've always thought Medved was a good voice for our side (though I'm not in a position to here him regularly) but I would respectfully suggest to him and others that such cannibalism gives aid and comfort to the real enemy.

One can express there dismay with Keyes' positions or ideas, even embarrassment by them (and should if that's an honest opinion) without being vicious.

furthermore, I think we need to chose our battle carefully. If I'm going to engage in heated rhetoric, it's going to be on issues of life and death like abortion and euthinasia...if I'm going to ESPECIALLY call a fellow conservative a wack job and a disgrace to the party, it's going to be on such serious issue. Far be it from all of us to savage our idealogical allies over a disagreement on stuff like tax policy. we can disagree strongly, and still do so respectfully.

That's a lesson Medved needs to learn, apparently.

[PhilDragoo]

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