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Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Twenty-Five

Posted on 03/05/2005 5:06:15 PM PST by nwctwx

Edited on 03/29/2005 8:49:43 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Cindy; All
I just returned from a presentation by the gang unit at the Fort Hall Reservation immediately north of Pocatello/Chubbuck. What an eye opener on local gang activity. We have an offshoot of the Bloods known at the "West Side Crip Killers". About 300 gang members in the local area. In contrast, the Salt Lake City/Ogden area 175 miles south has 380 unique gangs.

MS-13 is getting lots of press lately, but the "the 18th Street" gang is the largest in North America. The only state not touched by the 18th Street gang is Wyoming. One member of the gang unit is a school resource officer at the local reservation. He entered a 2nd grade classroom to do a presentation and was immediately "dissed" by several children. They pulled their sweatshirt hoods over their heads and turned their backs on the officer. The little sweethearts are already fully indoctrinated into the gang culture. One of the kids used the phrase "Slob" to refer to a Crip. That's something you don't do on the street unless you are prepared for a battle to the death. What a lovely culture.

It's very easy to recruit gang members on the reservation. Living on the government dole leaves lots of idle time to engage in gang activity.

2,321 posted on 03/23/2005 8:58:11 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Godzilla
But I also don't think the President will wait for a mushroom cloud over Tel Aviv either....

Neither, I suspect, will certain interested parties in Tel Aviv.....

2,322 posted on 03/23/2005 8:58:26 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Cindy
"Letter to the American people from the Mujahideen Army of Iraq"

Appears they are attempting to incite the blue states and the red states against each other. A modern day civil war on our shores would serve their purposes well. They know we are divided here and they are attempting to capitalize on it. Propaganda deluxe with the Dims, peaceniks and liberal left media consistently playing right into their hands.

2,323 posted on 03/23/2005 9:03:51 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: kingofhearts

Welcome back - yep, the battle is still raging!


2,324 posted on 03/23/2005 9:08:45 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: Myrddin
That's interesting Myrddin. It brings to mind several thoughts.

Some people want to paint over graffiti right away and that's understandable. I believe that graffiti should be photographed and then the jail/parole/probation offenders should paint the graffiti on a weekly or semi-weekly basis.

Next, gang officers should get on the internet ASAP and look for related-gang banger web pages. Once all the info is gathered; these pages should somehow legally cease and desist on the net.

You've probably seen me post this ad nauseum, but personally, I see no difference whatsoever between jihadis and gang bangers.
2,325 posted on 03/23/2005 9:09:46 PM PST by Cindy
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To: MamaDearest

OPINION-SPECULATION: The jihadis seem to well educated as to who to appeal to in order to promote their ideas. Obviously, Christians, Jews, conservatives and other infidels just aren't their cup of tea.


2,326 posted on 03/23/2005 9:12:41 PM PST by Cindy
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To: crabbie

LOL good one!


2,327 posted on 03/23/2005 9:15:38 PM PST by JustPiper (NoE your Enemy !!!)
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To: crabbie
Let me just hurry and mail my check!

I'm waiting until all the insurgents surrender, we capture OBL and Zarqawi and the clerics and professors either begin to have allegiance to America or leave America as quickly as their legs can carry them.

2,328 posted on 03/23/2005 9:16:52 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: Cindy
Standard procedure is to photograph the graffiti before painting it out. Gang activity is given no coverage in the newspapers or broadcast media to avoid encouraging the behavior with publicity.

The gangs in California have staked out the large indoor malls. Their websites are keyed to telephone area codes. California is so dense that telephone area codes represent fairly small pieces of geography, so they are a "good" regional organizing key for gangs. See link for an example from my old stomping grounds.

2,329 posted on 03/23/2005 9:21:02 PM PST by Myrddin
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2,330 posted on 03/23/2005 9:22:46 PM PST by JustPiper (NoE your Enemy !!!)
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To: judicial meanz
So far I dont see it.

I agree with you. Not yet anyway.

2,331 posted on 03/23/2005 9:30:26 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: Myrddin

I have a lot of empathy with your statement.

Old Times:
My area was surenos vs nortenos depending what side of town you were on. Once in awhile a crip or two would head drive by. Bikers and dopers and...

New Times:
None of that nonsense. In the year 2000 we packed up and left.


2,332 posted on 03/23/2005 9:31:36 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy
...as he pushed a shopping cart carrying two .22-caliber rifles and a shotgun.

KEYWORDS:

. a citizen of Honduras AND

. member of MS-13 (Mara Salvatrucha 13)

I long for the good old days, the ones with dungeons and sentences that kept people from committing crimes by mere example. Foreign gang members need a strongly enforced message to retreat to from whence they came or suffer the dire consequences.

2,333 posted on 03/23/2005 9:41:13 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: Cindy
I mistakenly believed I left all that behind in San Diego. It is much worse in Mira Mesa today than when I ditched the place in 2000. Pocatello and Chubbuck were graffiti free when I move here. No more. The California gang bangers are leaving California. Especially the older members who aren't up to the daily "rough stuff" on the streets of Los Angeles. They are setting up shop in rural areas where our "mush for brains children" revere a "real" gang member. The "wannabe" gangbangers are getting a first hand indoctrination.

The "badge of honor" for local bangers is cigarette burns formed in triples on the web of the thumb and index finger. Each burn represents a criminal act. After three on each hand, they work up the arms. The "pinnacle" of perfection is 23 burns. The biggest fish located locally has 18 burns to date.

2,334 posted on 03/23/2005 9:42:48 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Cindy

I should clarify there weren't a LOT of gang banger back home like in LA, just enough of them to get noticed.


2,335 posted on 03/23/2005 9:43:21 PM PST by Cindy
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To: MamaDearest

I'm for swift and legal justice.


2,336 posted on 03/23/2005 9:47:23 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Myrddin

That's disgusting and disturbing Myrddin.


2,337 posted on 03/23/2005 9:48:43 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Myrddin
Canadian reservations are having their share of gang violence as well:

Report cites increase in Native gang violence

Gun and Gang Conference in Toronto

2,338 posted on 03/23/2005 9:51:19 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: MamaDearest
Off topic...it's snowing. My front lawn was just starting to turn green. Now I have a fresh carpet of snow. It is just starting to lay on the street now.
2,339 posted on 03/23/2005 9:57:15 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: MamaDearest
From your first link

In Minnesota, Native gangs have threatened entire communities -- the Red Lake Ojibwe Reservation alone accounts for 33 percent of the cases prosecuted in the entire state.

Any doubt whether the shooter got a little "on the job training" on the reservation?

2,340 posted on 03/23/2005 10:01:38 PM PST by Myrddin
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