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Neighbor, other man charged in slaying of Jersey City family
PhillyBurbs ^

Posted on 03/04/2005 2:14:06 PM PST by Selkie

By WAYNE PARRY The Associated Press

JERSEY CITY, N.J. - The upstairs neighbor of an Egyptian Christian family found slain in their home in January was charged Friday, along with another man, in the murders.

Edward McDonald, 25, who rented a second-floor apartment above Hossam Armanious and his family, pleaded not guilty to four counts of felony murder. Hamilton Sanchez, 30, faces the same charges and also pleaded not guilty.

Sanchez during a court hearing began crying as he stood before a judge, his hands cuffed behind his back.

"I didn't kill nobody. I didn't kill nobody, man. I didn't kill nobody, people," Sanchez said, as he was led from the courtroom. McDonald stared at the floor during the hearing.

Both men, who were on parole for different drug offenses, were ordered held on $10 million cash bail.

Authorities said Armanious, 47; his wife, Amal Garas, 37, and their children - Sylvia, 15, and Monica, 8 - were slain three days before their bodies were found Jan. 14.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; armanious; copticchristian; cryingwolf; filthysanchez; hossamarmanious; islam; jerseycity; murder; muslim; robbery
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To: King Prout
I'll also need to see evidence completely exculpating their muslim opponents on the net.

Hehe. You'll do anything to get yourself out of jury duty, won't you?

281 posted on 03/07/2005 5:50:06 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: AmericanArchConservative

BRAVO!


282 posted on 03/07/2005 5:50:50 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: Modernman
You'd be surprised what junkie ex-cons are willing to do to get drug money.

Sure. But junkie ex-cons usually don't have the time, the concern, or the awareness to stage it as a murder by Islamics.

283 posted on 03/07/2005 5:52:25 PM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999!)
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To: TexasCowboy

My response to the moose-limbs is expressed in my tagline.

Even those who are currently "peaceful" - as a form of clear advance warning "Don't Tread On Me"!

In fact the tagline expresses my summary attitude as an American to all her enemies - foreign and domestic!

I stand for the US, for the UK, for Italy, Poland, Australia, and Ukraine. Oh yes, and for Israel. For Israel until the Lord returns...


284 posted on 03/07/2005 6:01:28 PM PST by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: TexasCowboy

"I just wanted to see if you had taken the oath to "protect this country against all enemies, foreign and domestic".

I think Pres. Bush and I both agree that YOU are doing harm to our cause in the Middle East, dosen't that make YOU an enemy ?

When some in my country speak in an ill-informed and insulting manner about the Muslim faith, their words are heard abroad, and do great harm to our cause in the Middle East.
- Commander-in-Chief George W. Bush June 29,2004


285 posted on 03/07/2005 6:04:27 PM PST by RS (just because they are out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
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To: TexasCowboy
Our best treatment of these muzzie lovers is to ignore them completely.

Good work. Why interact with someone who's cult/faith teaches him to cheat and lie? Why fight with the Devil on his terms?

In this battle against evil (Islam is only part of it), conserve your energy.

286 posted on 03/07/2005 6:07:50 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Former Dodger

Did you say TEN MILLION dollars bail? (I agree with you, someone is trying awfully hard to get us off the message.)


287 posted on 03/07/2005 6:10:36 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: RS; TexasCowboy

I think Pres. Bush and I both agree that YOU are doing harm to our cause in the Middle East, dosen't that make YOU an enemy ?

When some in my country speak in an ill-informed and insulting manner about the Muslim faith, their words are heard abroad, and do great harm to our cause in the Middle East.
- Commander-in-Chief George W. Bush June 29,2004



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Hey, your 'ask the imam' must have changed over from dial-up, that was a pretty quick response from you to TexasCowboy!

You are barking on the wrong forum, muzzie.


288 posted on 03/07/2005 6:16:45 PM PST by Bennett46
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To: Bennett46
You are barking on the wrong forum, muzzie.

And, this underscores the fact that TC is correct...ignore him and the other muzzie defenders and they are defanged.

289 posted on 03/07/2005 6:20:47 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Bennett46

"You are barking on the wrong forum, muzzie."

Well hello, have anything to say about the topic ?


290 posted on 03/07/2005 6:21:56 PM PST by RS (just because they are out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
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To: RS; TexasCowboy; Bennett46; Fred Nerks
Well hello, have anything to say about the topic ?

Or...

"Hey, Dude, that's my nerve your standing on."

291 posted on 03/07/2005 6:25:53 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Dark Skies

"Hey, Dude, that's my nerve your standing on."

LOL- your'e right, I suppose I touched them the wrong way - using facts and logic !

Welcome to FR !


292 posted on 03/07/2005 6:32:48 PM PST by RS (just because they are out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
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To: RS; TexasCowboy; Bennett46; Fred Nerks
I know you...you don't know me?

It is your nerve they are standing on. Do you love the truth? Do you love good and hate evil?

You are a poor distraction...you are not even a good Muslim.

293 posted on 03/07/2005 6:38:23 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: ariamne

"Islamic Community" ugh.

Why must we blame "communities" now, instead of individuals? Heck, you'll never get an apology from the 9/11 attackers, and I hope that most of those who took part in planning, etc., are unable to ever give one. X-|

Picture this... Al and Bob are New Yorkers. Cathy goes to NY and gets mugged by Al. Cathy proclaims loudly how awful NYers are... and any time something happens, she blames NYers. "NYers are evil!"

Bob deserves an apology for such slander if he has never done anything wrong. But I suppose Cathy could sit there and say, "I'm waiting for Al to apologize."

The point is, you are grouping people...lumping criminals in with others. I don't recall hearing anyone clarifying that it was a small segment who threatened in a chat room...most of what I read and heard were broad-brush slurs.


294 posted on 03/07/2005 6:47:09 PM PST by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: RS

Now, just when did I ever speak of the muslim faith in an ill informed and insulting manner?
I save my venom for the 'prophet' whose life was nothing less than one long history of slaughter, who unleashed unspeakable, uncountable death upon the world.
Muir's 'The Caliphate: It's Rise, Decline and Fall' documents every conflict from the time of mohammad's rise until the fall of the Abbasside Caliphate in Baghdad in the 1500's AD. That's several hundred years of dead bodies to pile up in mohammad's honour, with yet another 500 years to go...
Islam is the barrel, the container, nothing more. The rotten apple at the bottom is mohammad. I'm not a diplomat, neither am I constrained by my government (not yet) from expressing views and opinions gained from research. My (our) Prime Minister is a public servant. When enough of us understand what islam is, and make our opinions known, he will follow us, not vice-versa. Democracy works from the bottom up, not top down. John Howard is not a dictator, he can't tell me what I should think, and neither can GWB, much as I admire him.
GWB isn't your final arbiter, I hope.
Every nation on the planet has mohammadanism to deal with, even countries with a muslim majority such as Indonesia are under threat from koranic imperatives to establish sharia. Islam without sharia?
I think that's what GWB means. Secular Islam. Seperate church from state, keep mohammad out of the government. It's their only hope. And ours.


295 posted on 03/07/2005 6:48:00 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: JimRed

"They was dead when we got there; we just took their stuff!"

That sounds plausible. Where did you get this quote? Did I miss something?


296 posted on 03/07/2005 6:52:56 PM PST by ArmyTeach
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To: Fred Nerks; RS; TexasCowboy; Bennett46; Gondring
Muslims do not defend their honor in debate because true honor doesn't exist in Islam.

To Islam, honor means the killing of women and the mutilization of the clitoris.

What is defined as "honor" is Islam, is cowardice to the rest of the world.

There is no courage with Satan/Venus/Allah/moon-god because courage is an extension of love and love is not something that has meaning within the Islamic world...

If I am wrong, RS or Gondring...please give us a Muslim definition of love...no, not some whiny response of the lack of love in the rest of the world...just provide us with a simple definition of "love" in the Islamic world. The kind you feel for your mother and your sisters, for example.

297 posted on 03/07/2005 6:57:02 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Fred Nerks
"Now, just when did I ever speak of the muslim faith in an ill informed and insulting manner? "

Sorry Fred, did you change your name, or are you just passing on a message from the Cowboy - who decided to go off and pout... :-)

You appear to be very well informed on almost everything you choose to discuss.

Obviously GWB is pushing secular Islam, but his statement IS regarding the religion.

another quote from the same news release-

"Democratic values also do not require citizens to abandon their faith. No democracy can allow religious people to impose their own view of perfection on others, because this invites cruelty and arrogance that are foreign to every faith. And all people in a democracy have the right to their own religious beliefs. But all democracies are made stronger when religious people teach and demonstrate upright conduct - family commitment, respect for the law, and compassion for the weak. Democratic societies should welcome, not fear, the participation of the faithful."
298 posted on 03/07/2005 6:59:45 PM PST by RS (just because they are out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
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To: RS

"Well hello, have anything to say about the topic ?"


Yes, I have plenty to say about the topic.

Ask your creepy imam to check out my screen name, and my postings on this topic...and then get back to me.

Your shelf life here is about over.....sleeper.


299 posted on 03/07/2005 7:03:06 PM PST by Bennett46
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To: RS; Fred Nerks; TexasCowboy; jan in Colorado; Bennett46
Love...Dude

What is its meaning in Islam? One simple question. Got an answer?

300 posted on 03/07/2005 7:04:50 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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