[Dark Skies]

Muslims do not defend their honor in debate because true honor doesn't exist in Islam.

To Islam, honor means the killing of women and the mutilization of the clitoris.

What is defined as "honor" is Islam, is cowardice to the rest of the world.

There is no courage with Satan/Venus/Allah/moon-god because courage is an extension of love and love is not something that has meaning within the Islamic world...

If I am wrong, RS or Gondring...please give us a Muslim definition of love...no, not some whiny response of the lack of love in the rest of the world...just provide us with a simple definition of "love" in the Islamic world. The kind you feel for your mother and your sisters, for example.

[Gondring]

I have no idea what the Muslim definition of love is, but I think you know that I am as much against the "mutilization" of the clitoris as I am against "mutilizing" the penis (of children and the unwilling).

[RS]

"If I am wrong, RS or Gondring...please give us a Muslim definition of love..."

I have no idea - you might try putting it in the search engine at www.submission.org

Here's a link to their page on Women you might find interesting- http://www.submission.org/women/mis.html