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Neighbor, other man charged in slaying of Jersey City family
PhillyBurbs ^

Posted on 03/04/2005 2:14:06 PM PST by Selkie

By WAYNE PARRY The Associated Press

JERSEY CITY, N.J. - The upstairs neighbor of an Egyptian Christian family found slain in their home in January was charged Friday, along with another man, in the murders.

Edward McDonald, 25, who rented a second-floor apartment above Hossam Armanious and his family, pleaded not guilty to four counts of felony murder. Hamilton Sanchez, 30, faces the same charges and also pleaded not guilty.

Sanchez during a court hearing began crying as he stood before a judge, his hands cuffed behind his back.

"I didn't kill nobody. I didn't kill nobody, man. I didn't kill nobody, people," Sanchez said, as he was led from the courtroom. McDonald stared at the floor during the hearing.

Both men, who were on parole for different drug offenses, were ordered held on $10 million cash bail.

Authorities said Armanious, 47; his wife, Amal Garas, 37, and their children - Sylvia, 15, and Monica, 8 - were slain three days before their bodies were found Jan. 14.

(Excerpt) Read more at phillyburbs.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; armanious; copticchristian; cryingwolf; filthysanchez; hossamarmanious; islam; jerseycity; murder; muslim; robbery
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To: Dark Skies

I have no idea what the Muslim definition of love is, but I think you know that I am as much against the "mutilization" of the clitoris as I am against "mutilizing" the penis (of children and the unwilling).


302 posted on 03/07/2005 7:08:19 PM PST by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: Dark Skies

Submission?
Submission to the Will of allah.
And we have mohammad's word on it, that that's what allah wants.


303 posted on 03/07/2005 7:08:46 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: TexasCowboy

"Our best treatment of these muzzie lovers is to ignore them completely.

From this point forward, RS, I will never respond to one of your posts on this thread or any other. Don't ping me or I'll consider it stalking from a muzzie and hit the abuse button."



Yes, you are correct.

I was just waiting for the pusspocket to respond to my post.

The muzzie/muzzie-lover is now history.


304 posted on 03/07/2005 7:08:59 PM PST by Bennett46
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To: Dark Skies

"If I am wrong, RS or Gondring...please give us a Muslim definition of love..."

I have no idea - you might try putting it in the search engine at www.submission.org

Here's a link to their page on Women you might find interesting- http://www.submission.org/women/mis.html


305 posted on 03/07/2005 7:09:31 PM PST by RS (just because they are out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
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To: Gondring
Do you mean the cutting off of the clitoris and the cutting off of the penis? Circumcision, command given to Abraham, is not what is done as an extension of the mistreatment of women by Islam.
306 posted on 03/07/2005 7:11:32 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Bennett46

"Ask your creepy imam to check out my screen name, and my postings on this topic...and then get back to me."


Ooooo ... another one who thinks he has some sort of reuputation - No thanks, from the "quality" of these few posts I don't think I'll waste my time...



"Your shelf life here is about over.....sleeper."

ZZZzzzzzz...huh ? Did you say something ?


307 posted on 03/07/2005 7:14:15 PM PST by RS (just because they are out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
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To: Bennett46
NICE response!


308 posted on 03/07/2005 7:16:29 PM PST by Former Dodger ("The high-minded man must care more for the truth than for what people think." --Aristotle)
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To: RS; Fred Nerks; Gondring; TexasCowboy
You have no idea what the Muslim definition of love is? You defend this filthy cult, yet you have no idea how it defines the most sublime, the most unselfish of all the human emotions.

I'll tell you what...you tell me where you are coming from and I'll tell you where I am coming from.

Can you be honest...or are you going to respond with just more lies.

309 posted on 03/07/2005 7:16:41 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: RS

"Oooo watch where you step here... I'm sure there are many here who, if they were forced to choose between their country and their God, would disagree with you."
____________________________________________________
So what? Am I supposed to be afraid of people disagreeing with me? If that were the case, I'd have bolted at your first challenge (which, by the way, I don't mind at all, I rather enjoy a stimulating debate, it is your lack of courtesy that I find unpleasant.) I am sure many here disagree with me on many topics..but that's ok, we aren't leftists, we don't have to walk in lockstep; I left that behind in Dummieland.

I suspect that most loyal Americans don't feel that they have to choose between God and America. And if they did, that choice is their business, isn't it? My opinion that our first loyalty should be to our country is just that--an opinion. You and anyone else on this forum are free to jump right in and disagree with that opinion. You can go first, have at it.

You might want to take a page from Gondring's book--he does not agree with me, but he is a gentleman about it and doesn't resort to name calling and insult.


310 posted on 03/07/2005 7:23:31 PM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal--Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: Gondring
"I think you know that I am as much against the "mutilization" of the clitoris as I am for "mutilizing" the penis"

You don't even know the meaning of female genital mutilation. The muslims don't just cut the clitoris off, they cut it OUT, if your feeble brain can grasp that.
They also remove the lips of the labia. It's an absolutely horrible procedure during which many young girls die.

This is far removed from circumcision for males or females.

311 posted on 03/07/2005 7:25:59 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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To: Dark Skies

Maybe a cold wet frog has more love in it's tiny little mind than there is love in the entire koran and the 62 or so volumes of hadith.
Why? Because (methinks) a parasitic nomadic desert culture such as mohammad stemmed from didn't have much use for loving kindness; they survived for millenia by driving their camels, sheep and goats into the fields of the agriculturalists, leaving the population of entire city-states to die of starvation. (Those whom they didn't kill or take captive, that is.)
Love's got nothing to do with it, they were/are arabs.


312 posted on 03/07/2005 7:26:37 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: TomGuy
The FBI was probably ordered to frame somebody to defuse the religious tension.
313 posted on 03/07/2005 7:27:29 PM PST by conservlib
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To: RS; Gondring; Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado
The future holds many reformations of Christianity...Jesus will continue to call the faithful to the Truth and away from human and demonic distraction...

But Islam doesn't permit innovation or correction or examination (bidah).

Islam will die. It isn't designed to survive. And neither is Satan...the father of Islam.

314 posted on 03/07/2005 7:28:59 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: conservlib

Well, TEN MILLION dollars bail should hold them long enough to gather evidence.
And evidence is what is needed for a conviction. (I hope!)


315 posted on 03/07/2005 7:30:15 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Watch it Freddie...you know I love little green frogs.


316 posted on 03/07/2005 7:30:25 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Fred Nerks

Ten million is far and above what would be asked even in a case as evil as this. Even at half that, 5 mil bail would be considered excessive. If they are worried about flight-they would just remand. I asked a NYPD friend (former JCPD) of mine why the high bail for 'druggies' and he said the JCPD and the Prosec. office is doing all they can to keep these guys in custody because they wouldn't "last 10 seconds on the outside". This is not the threat of an enraged populace. The perps are also asking to be kept in protective custody, and apparently not just because two of the victims are children.

There is more here than anyone wishes to admit to


317 posted on 03/07/2005 7:37:51 PM PST by swordfish71 (Tagline? What is "Tagline"?)
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To: RS; Gondring; Fred Nerks; TexasCowboy; ariamne; jan in Colorado
Yo, RS and Gondring...cut the crap...come over to a world that can actually define love.

Tell Satan to take a hike...don't you love your Mom.

You have read the Qu'ran...try the New Testament...learn about love and be reborn...

A lot of people believe in it (Jesus)...what have you got to lose...give it a try (unless Islam prohibits it...and what does that tell you?).

Aren't you at least curious?

318 posted on 03/07/2005 7:40:36 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Dark Skies

"I'll tell you what...you tell me where you are coming from ..."

Here's a short recap -

There are about a billion Muslims on this planet who apparantly are not thinking of attacking anyone for any reason.

Many here have decided that every Islamic, even Americans, are guilty of complicity in 911 and the other actions performed by the terrorists.

Many here have decided that Islam itself is some form of "tool of satan" and are committed to some kind of holy crusade to wipe it out by force.

Many here resort to simply false "quotes" from the koran to press their points while ignoring the simple ones like " There shall be NO compulsion in religion"

I don't believe that any person, race, creed or nationality should be held accountable for the actions of another.

It is simple enough to check facts on the net, people who continuously make statements that are easily refuted are to BE refuted.

French beers are the worst, Czech Beers the best.

Jim Robinson deserves every dime he makes for creating and sustaining FR.

Hillery MUST be stopped, the sooner the better.


319 posted on 03/07/2005 7:40:51 PM PST by RS (just because they are out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
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To: ariamne
Americans who are muslim identify as Muslims FIRST, then as Americans and their loyalty folllows that order.

Most Christians would choose Christ above Washington, dont' you think? Asked to decide between their faith and their country, many people would choose their faith. That was one of the reasons for so much mistrust of Catholics in America--they were seen as having loyalty to the Pope over America.

320 posted on 03/07/2005 7:44:41 PM PST by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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