Posted on 03/04/2005 8:50:54 AM PST by NormsRevenge
Remember what the 'Penguin' did to Jake and Elwood in "The Blues Brothers"?;)
(only worse;)))
My dad was a study in self restraint. When I was a kid I did things that would've pissed off the Pope; however, prior to the administration of punishment, dad was always certain that I clearly understood that the ass-whoopin' I was about to receive was not the consequence of his anger, but of my misbehavior. Precious little else in life has ever been as clear or obvious.
"A very good friend - no wimp, an ex-Navy Chief - was doing substitute teacher duty when one of his little charges had a similar tantrum. The guidance then was to wrap them in your arms until they calmed so they wouldn't hurt themselves or anyone else thrashing."
Was that recently? I've heard from teachers that they can no longer touch a child in any way. Not even a simple one armed hug.
Amen my friend, amen. I had a similar experience.
They should. We know the parents will sue. They have been such charming examples for this child that you know they won't pass up the opportunity to make some quick cash.
The little guy actually apologized, and by all reports was fairly well-behaved afterward. Go figure.
How do you all know that this kid isn't being beat silly at home? You just assume he isn't being disciplined, as if a disciplined child never does anything wrong.
I can tell you from my experience as a substitute teacher -- I was watching from my window at a child being beat all the way into school by his mom. Yeppers, right into my class! And right back out again as he tried to take his rage out in my class. Sometimes things are a sorry state of affairs for kids.
I do agree that the bottom line is the parents. But I also know that children are separate beings from their parents and sometimes act accordingly. They manage somehow to embarrass us, or completely forget how they were raised.
Ralph U Swisher had special accoutrements in his office. The same ones our parents had when we got home. It wasn't worth the double trouble.
I wish the article would have stated the reason he was kept from going out...
Perhaps you assume too much.
I attended school in the 30s and 40s. I assure not one child was ever taken away in hadcuffs. There was never a need for such. Ritalin is just a part of our modern day drug culture.
wow...it says something about a grown up that would have a child arrested.
I used to work at a day program for kids who had behavioral and emotional disorders. I had a kid who had been born addicted to cocaine (they are EXTREMELY STRONG, despite their tiny size) and he was throwing a fit one day on the van and I had to restrain him while sitting (very hard) for about 30 minutes. I went home with EVERY muscle in my back and arms pulled and sore because he was so strong. But you know what I didn't do...I didn't have him arrested. And his tantrum before getting on the van included throwing folding chairs and flipping tables around. I had to move my other kids outside of the room and try to calm him down. He was 11 years old and the last thing he needed was to be put in yet another living situation where nobody loved or cared about him. For the MOST part, these children need discipline and love, not jail time.
There was only one kid arrested while I worked there, and he was a 16 year old (16! not 6!!!) who was stabbing people with a pencil. It took 2 adults to restrain him until the LEOs arrived. I very much doubt this 8 year old posed THAT much of a threat.
He'll be back in class within 3 days. Every student involved will see that the consequences are virtually nil.
Well, it would be nice to know that but is it relevant? So he was mad, so what?
Understanding a kid's feelings has nothing to do with expecting him to behave in a reasonable way. This was not reasonable for any kid in a school. No matter what he feels. I think I was taught that early, your feelings are totally irrelevant to how you act.
This should be handled at home.
Hmmm,,what about the rest of the classroom enduring this. this does not belong in any educational classroom. You may be very kind and very proud of your actions, and that may have been the norm,,,but what about the other kids? What about them?
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