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CNN: US SUPREME COURT: ALL DEATH PENALTY CASES WITH JUVENILE KILLERS THROWN OUT!
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Posted on 03/01/2005 7:21:16 AM PST by Next_Time_NJ

The Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that the Constitution forbids the execution of killers who were under 18 when they committed their crimes, ending a practice used in 19 states.

The 5-4 decision throws out the death sentences of about 70 juvenile murderers and bars states from seeking to execute minors for future crimes.

The executions, the court said, were unconstitutionally cruel.

This report will be updated as details become available.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ban; deathpenalty; impeachthem; judicialtyranny; juveniles; levinsexactlyright; meninblack; readmarklevinsbook; ropervsimmons; ruling; scotus; supremecourt
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To: MJY1288

Have ya seen this?


Court Ruling Will Affect Future Malvo Prosecutions (DC Sniper Can't be Executed)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1353490/posts


561 posted on 03/01/2005 10:10:35 AM PST by Mo1 (Question to the Media/Press ... Why are you hiding the Eason Jordan tapes ????)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

>>>But a better question for you, if there is no difference between armed robbery and murder, why do robber leave their victims alive? They are more likely to be caught and convicted if there are witnesses.<<<


Excellent point.


562 posted on 03/01/2005 10:10:41 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: CWW

The problem is that we reap what they sow.


563 posted on 03/01/2005 10:11:05 AM PST by ghitma (MeClaudius)
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To: dubyaismypresident
Fine. No state kills 16 year old murders. They kill 26 year olds who bacame murders at 16.

I didn't mean to come off like I was trying to nitpick your statement, I was trying to add to your argument against the person who was using the example of the 15 year old in the electric chair.

564 posted on 03/01/2005 10:11:06 AM PST by Texas Federalist
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To: Next_Time_NJ; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ..
This is so F'd up.....

   - The Majority Opinion
   - Justice Scalia’s Dissent

565 posted on 03/01/2005 10:11:38 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Cold Heat
I see many of the same people who are viciously arguing to save Terry Shiavo, yet don't bat a eye when it come to executing a criminal that committed a crime as a juvenile.

Ummmm ... Terri Shiavo didn't commit a murder

566 posted on 03/01/2005 10:12:20 AM PST by Mo1 (Question to the Media/Press ... Why are you hiding the Eason Jordan tapes ????)
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To: jwalsh07
Starving and dehydrating any person to death would fall under the rubrick of "cruel and unusual", no?

Since the state was not doing that as some form of punishment for a crime, apparently they didn't think it was in the scope of their authority.

I think it's cruel and unusual way to die, but it's a stretch to say that she had been "sentenced' to it for a crime.

Word games like that don't interest me BTW.

567 posted on 03/01/2005 10:12:21 AM PST by Protagoras (" I believe that's the role of the federal government, to help people"...GWB, 7-23-04)
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To: Next_Time_NJ

Did they say anything about the Death Peanlty for innocent liquor store owners, and weather or not juveniles can carry that out absent any charges, trial or verdict?


568 posted on 03/01/2005 10:12:25 AM PST by ElkGroveDan
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To: Next_Time_NJ

"The executions, the court said, were unconstitutionally cruel."

The murders for which they were convicted and sentenced were 'uncontitutionally cruel'!


569 posted on 03/01/2005 10:13:06 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: Next_Time_NJ

The federal courts always vote against the defenseless, they are the reason we have abortion. They also have found against the citizens of this country as they have stated it is against their law that we can defend our selves. Note discrimination is no more than one's natural responce against things that threaten them. At this time we can't even keep out Illegals lest we discriminate.


570 posted on 03/01/2005 10:13:24 AM PST by Ibredd
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To: Texas Federalist
From Scalias dissent:

We need not look far to find studies contradicting the Court’s conclusions. As petitioner points out, the American Psychological Association (APA), which claims in this case that scientific evidence shows persons under 18 lack the ability to take moral responsibility for their decisions, has previously taken precisely the opposite position before this very Court.
In its brief in Hodgson v. Minnesota, 497 U. S. 417 (1990), the APA found a “rich body of research” showing that juveniles are mature enough to decide whether to obtain an abortion without parental involvement. Brief for APA as Amicus Curiae, O. T. 1989, No. 88–805 etc., p. 18.

The majority opinion is as dishonest as the APA.

571 posted on 03/01/2005 10:14:08 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: snarkytart
No, I don't.

Killing is killing,whether the state sanctions it or not.

The only time I find it justifiable is in times of war, or in cases where certain death is hastened or made easier out of compassion.

It is my view, that if life loses respect, then taking it means little to the criminal.

Also, the criminal likely cares little about losing his/her own.

I believe the State is responsible for the lack of respect for life and property, since it seems to have little respect either.

As to criminals, they are punished far worse by imprisonment and loss of basic rights. Death is the easy way out for them.

572 posted on 03/01/2005 10:14:14 AM PST by Cold Heat (FR is still a good place to get the news and slap around an idiot from time to time.)
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To: Mo1
(DC Sniper Can't be Executed)

That is infuriating.

573 posted on 03/01/2005 10:14:21 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Freedom. Brought to you by the grace of God and the Red, White and Blue...)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Lets see Kids can kill you but you can't spank them


574 posted on 03/01/2005 10:16:50 AM PST by Ibredd
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To: Qwinn
"the Constitution forbids the execution of killers who were under 18 when they committed their crimes"

An amazing interpretation, realy, considering that when the Constitution was written, sixteen year-olds were working their own farms and raising their children.

The eighteen year old bit didn't really get going until the unions and child labor laws came into being.

575 posted on 03/01/2005 10:17:26 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (Invest in semi-precious metal--BLOAT!)
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To: CIB-173RDABN
"First life without parole only exist for a very few. Even those that have been on death row have been let out of prison after awhile."

In the State of Washington the courts decided that only Juries can hand down a sentence. So - now killers are being set FREE in numerous cases where the Judge handed down the sentence. Martin Pang (arsonist, 4 firefighters died) accepted the judge's plea deal of 40 years or something (to avoid life). Now is trying to get out. Others have already been RELEASED. Not sure why they don't just go through the resentencing phase.
576 posted on 03/01/2005 10:17:45 AM PST by geopyg ("It's not that liberals don't know much, it's just that what they know just ain't so." (~ R. Reagan))
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To: clawrence3

"...the 5 Justices voting capital punishment un-Constitutional...the same who vote capital punishment for UNBORN children is enshrined in the Constitution..."

Have they not just declared abortion unconstitutional? The preborn sentenced to death and executed are under the age of 18!


577 posted on 03/01/2005 10:18:06 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: Cold Heat

Why do you want to keep evil killers on the planet?


578 posted on 03/01/2005 10:18:11 AM PST by LongViewSC
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To: Cold Heat
Prison does that.

If a sociopath is so bad he must be kept in prison until he dies of old age, at terrific expense to the very population being protected from him, why keep him on Earth at all?

579 posted on 03/01/2005 10:18:29 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: The Old Hoosier
"Not that I really like the idea of executing kid killers, but isn't that what state legislatures are for?"

Your copy of the memo must have gotten lost in the mail. State legislatures are only for arguing against a proposed Constitutional amendment defining marriage as between a man and woman. States rights is dead.

Now terrorists and gangbangers have the perfect legal loophole. Way fo go SC. No death penalty for Malvo, either.

580 posted on 03/01/2005 10:18:38 AM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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