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CNN: US SUPREME COURT: ALL DEATH PENALTY CASES WITH JUVENILE KILLERS THROWN OUT!
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Posted on 03/01/2005 7:21:16 AM PST by Next_Time_NJ

The Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that the Constitution forbids the execution of killers who were under 18 when they committed their crimes, ending a practice used in 19 states.

The 5-4 decision throws out the death sentences of about 70 juvenile murderers and bars states from seeking to execute minors for future crimes.

The executions, the court said, were unconstitutionally cruel.

This report will be updated as details become available.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ban; deathpenalty; impeachthem; judicialtyranny; juveniles; levinsexactlyright; meninblack; readmarklevinsbook; ropervsimmons; ruling; scotus; supremecourt
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To: michigander
"It is proper that we acknowledge the overwhelming weight of international opinion against the juvenile death penalty, resting in large part on the understanding that the instability and emotional imbalance of young people may often be a factor in the crime," he wrote in the 25-page opinion.

America has more liberal laws regarding abortion than all but 6 countires in the world. Of course the court has NEVER cited that in an opinion because it doesn't accrue with their view that killing them on the way out is perfectly OK. The court, and Justice Kennedy, in particular are hypocrites of the worst kind.

281 posted on 03/01/2005 8:19:16 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: M 91 u2 K
Yeah like counciling Im sure a good talk therapy session will help make this misunderstood monsters FEEL better.

Like life in prison without the possibility of parole.

282 posted on 03/01/2005 8:19:37 AM PST by Modernman ("Normally, I don't listen to women, or doctors." - Captain Hero)
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To: Next_Time_NJ

mediate=meditate


283 posted on 03/01/2005 8:20:09 AM PST by M 91 u2 K (Kahane was Right!)
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To: Netizen

The Right mentioned just before liberty is Life. I disagree that a child forfeits their right to life when they murder someone.


284 posted on 03/01/2005 8:20:16 AM PST by Quick1
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
They weren't thinking, they were feeling. It was 5-4 with Kennedy, Breyer, Souter, Ginsburg and Stevens in the majority.

O'Conner, Scalia, Thomas and Rehnquist were the dissenters.

285 posted on 03/01/2005 8:20:16 AM PST by newzjunkey (Demand Mexico Turnover Fugitive Murderers: http://www.escapingjustice.com)
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To: Next_Time_NJ

Care to address my 246 to you?


286 posted on 03/01/2005 8:20:21 AM PST by Netizen (jmo)
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To: Next_Time_NJ

who's constitution are they referring to?


287 posted on 03/01/2005 8:20:34 AM PST by SF Republican
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To: jla


Once again, the federal government steps in and tells the states how to run things...

15 year old is perfectly capeable of knowing that killing is wrong.


288 posted on 03/01/2005 8:20:43 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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To: M 91 u2 K

There is no actual evidence that the death penalty, any kind of death penalty, is a deterrent.


289 posted on 03/01/2005 8:21:22 AM PST by Quick1
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To: Quick1

This isn't about a particular method of punishment.


290 posted on 03/01/2005 8:21:41 AM PST by JCEccles (If Jimmy Carter were a country, he'd be Canada.)
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To: Ibredd
Well so it's against the law to teach them one of the 10 commandents thou shalt not kill

Wherever did you get that silly idea?

291 posted on 03/01/2005 8:22:05 AM PST by Modernman ("Normally, I don't listen to women, or doctors." - Captain Hero)
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To: Modernman
Like life in prison without the possibility of parole. What if they escape?

Whats to stop them from killing guards?

Why should we pay for their free- health care when they get sick such needing HEART transplants?

Their is no such thing as life in prison anymore. Prisoners are always released later down the line when the state cannot afford to keep them.

292 posted on 03/01/2005 8:22:10 AM PST by M 91 u2 K (Kahane was Right!)
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To: Netizen

No, but the Declaration is not the supreme law of the United States. That description belongs to the Constitution.


293 posted on 03/01/2005 8:22:18 AM PST by Tree of Liberty (requiescat in pace, President Reagan)
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To: michigander

""It is proper that we acknowledge the overwhelming weight of international opinion"

Early in the original issue they said it was decided based on OUR CONSTITUTION???????


294 posted on 03/01/2005 8:22:18 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Next_Time_NJ
You make a blanket statements about me being a lib because im against children being executed?

Yes, because you do not distinguish between innocent and guilty. That is a liberal trait.

295 posted on 03/01/2005 8:22:21 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (No one knows the shape of the future or where it will take us. We know only the way is paved in pain)
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To: hopespringseternal
How many seventeen year old killers are there who will now go free?

I imagine it would be zero. All will remain in prison as punishment.
296 posted on 03/01/2005 8:22:27 AM PST by Quick1
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To: Quick1
The Right mentioned just before liberty is Life. I disagree that a child forfeits their right to life when they murder someone.

I think that if you murder an innocent person depriving them of the right to life, then you have NO RIGHT to life for yourself!

297 posted on 03/01/2005 8:22:33 AM PST by Netizen (jmo)
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To: Quick1
It certainly prevents subsequent murders by the executed killer.

Remember Willy Horton?

298 posted on 03/01/2005 8:22:54 AM PST by JCEccles (If Jimmy Carter were a country, he'd be Canada.)
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To: Next_Time_NJ

Just a few weeks ago, I watched the following trial on COURT TV:

From CNN:

"Wednesday, February 16, 2005 Posted: 4:23 AM EST (0923 GMT)
"CHARLESTON, South Carolina (CNN) -- A judge sentenced a 15-year-old boy Tuesday to 30 years in prison for killing his grandparents after jurors rejected defense arguments that taking the antidepressant Zoloft drove the youth to kill.

The jury convicted Chris Pittman earlier Tuesday on two counts of murder in the 2001 slayings of his paternal grandparents, Joe and Joy Pittman.

In closing arguments Monday, prosecutor John Meadors belittled the defense's contention that Zoloft influenced Pittman, then 12, to carry out the shootings, calling such an argument a "smoke screen."

"The only issue is -- did he know the difference between right and wrong?" Meadors said.

"Shooting them in bed with a [.410-gauge shotgun]," he said, "that's malice, meanness, wickedness."

In his closing argument, defense attorney Paul Waldner told jurors, "In this state, in this country, we do not convict children of murder when they've been ambushed by chemicals that have destroyed their ability to reason."

((And whether he'd been sentenced to death, or this 30 year sentence, he'll spend the rest of his life in jail appealing the verdict.))


299 posted on 03/01/2005 8:22:54 AM PST by YaYa123 (@The Death Penalty Never Gets Carried Out Anyway.com)
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To: Quick1
SCOTUS has the power decide what type of punishments are cruel and unusual. States cannot go against the National Constitution.

SCOTUS is a joke. It is cruel and unusual do starve and dehydrate a woman with brain damage to death. The constituion would not allow that to happen to the worst serial killer but they REFUSE to hear Terri Schiavo's case in their august chambers.

SCOTUS does not have the power to decide for states who can be treated as an adult. That power resides with the states.

Well, it did once upon a time.

And to be perfectly consistent, it must be cruel and unusual to allow 17 year olds to get killed while defending their fat asses.

300 posted on 03/01/2005 8:23:26 AM PST by jwalsh07
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