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Posted on 02/28/2005 7:08:08 AM PST by floriduh voter
Terri's Freepers,
Judge George Greer denied Terri's parents' Motion for a Stay to protect their daughter's life while there are still pending issues in this LIFE AND DEATH MATTER. In addition the Department of Children and Family Services made a surprise visit to the court hearing the other day and asked Judge Greer if they could approach the bench. Judge Greer denied DCF the opportunity to speak. DCF asked for 60 days to conduct a complete investigation of allegations that have surfaced in the form of a Complaint to their agency.
What was set in motion instead? On Friday, February 25th, Judge Greer REFUSED TO issue another Stay because he was "not comfortable" issuing a say to protect a Ward of the State but instead "set a date certain" (on his calendar at least, not on mine) to BEGIN THE BARBARIC, ANTI-AMERICAN, STARVATION-DEHYDRATION SLOW MURDER OF TERRI.
Attorney Gibbs for Terri's parents held a press conference after J. Greer's order that was so tastefully written to indicate that "he was giving the Schindlers until March 18th so they could "prepare for Last Rites." Attorneys Gibbs called this ruling and prior rulings "Hitler-resque". Indeed.
If Judge Greer wasn't LEGALIZING EUTHANASIA in his courtroom, why any need for Last Rites? Greer's urgency to fulfill this killing places urgency on every one of us to lobby Governor Bush, Florida's House and Florida's Senate.
A Judge in America is ordering the manner of someone's death, a disabled woman who is healthy but needs rehabilitation.
Time is short so we don't really have time to get into Greer's mind to see why he is Florida's Til of the Hun.
What can we do?
1. LOBBY TO SAVE TERRI
2. HELP BUMP THIS THREAD.
3. POST ARTICLES YOU SEE ABOUT TERRI.
4. VISIT PINELLAS COUNTY FLORIDA AND VIGIL WITH US AT HOSPICE WOODSIDE.
5. VISIT TALLAHASSEE AND LOBBY IN THE HALLS OF THE LEGISLATURE.
6. HOLD A DEMONSTRATION AT THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION.
7. Join the Message Board that freepers started at the Crystal Cathedral/Hour of Power. TELL YOUR CHURCH ABOUT TERRI.
8. Tell your friends that Terri is alert and aware of her surroundings and to visit www.terrisfight.org to see her videos.
9. PETITIONS. We will gather current Petitions here for you. At this time, you can sign a SAVE TERRI PETITION AT www.renewamerica.us. THERE ARE ALSO IMPEACH GREER PETITIONS ABOUT.
Finally, the Pope has no Living Will. He will be SAFE as long as he stays away from George Greer's courtroom. The Pope is in our thoughts and prayers and he knows of Terri. He wants Terri to be freed from oppression and from a painless death by starvation-dehyration.
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO EVERY DAY, THE PAY ISN'T VERY GOOD BUT THE FRINGE BENEFITS ARE THE GREATEST. You are Great Americans and liberty is Terri's and freedom from oppression. Freepers, that is the big payoff if we continue our daunting task.
Terri's family is grateful to you and all of your prayers are being heard by the Giver of Life.
This is Terri's Fight and the battle is enjoined. JOIN US TO SAVE TERRI FROM FORCES THAT HAVE BUT ONE GOAL THAT IS AGAINST EVERYTHING AMERICAN.
GUIDELINES: If you want to start frivolous discussions, please start your own thread in chat.
If you like something from www.theempirejournal.com, please do not post the entire article at Free Republic. Unless I hear otherwise, I believe that we are allowed to post the title and link. TEJ is a great team member of Terri's network. Thanks, TEJ for making a difference and for getting the truth out there.
IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR CONTACT INFO, IT IS ON THE WAY. Thanks, floriduh voter
To the Editor
Nashville City Paper
http://www.nashvillecitypaper.com/index.cfm?section=38&screen=news&news_id=39659
Regarding the Terri Schiavo case, it’s interesting to me that the same whining crybabies who defend every convicted killer who’s been sentenced to death under the guise that killing them is inhumane have nothing to say about an innocent woman who’s set to be starved to death.
I guess if Schiavo had murdered a few people and the state was preparing to do to her what her husband wants done, then we’d have some outrage from the anti-death penalty crowd. But no, she’s just a disabled person who needs care, so the usually loud and obnoxious liberals are silent. Or even worse, these phonies support the husband’s side.
Myself, I believe in the death penalty, but only for people who’ve been tried by a jury of their peers, convicted and sentenced to die. I don’t support selfish men starving their disabled wives to death.
But I do have an interesting proposal. Since the ACLU and certain judges have decided that a man can legally deny his wife food and water, in effect starving her to death, then I propose that we handle all death row cases in this manner.
In other words, when the people on death row have exhausted their appeals, let’s just cut off all food and water to them. Since pro-euthanasia advocates claim that denial of food and water is a painless way to go, then it can’t possibly be cruel and unusual punishment. No more electrocution, lethal injections, firing squads or hangings. Just stop feeding them and giving them water.
If Michael Schiavo is allowed to starve his wife to death, and the bleeding heart liberals who have so much concern for lab animals and snail darters have nothing to say in opposition, then I say we’ve got the green light to go ahead and start killing death row inmates this way also.
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Jerry Vanek
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There is a place to POST OPINION--there is about 80 opinions already posted.
UPDATED PRAYER SCHEDULE FOR FRIDAY COURT HEARING!
If there is anyone who would like to stand in the gap during hours that are not filled, just freepmail me and I will update this schedule. I am sure we all are in prayer whether or not names appear on the chart.Let's pray that God will move in on that courtroom as never before, and that we will see Divine intervention on behalf of Terri. Diva Betsy Ross, I took the liberty to move you per your ok
Starting time March 3rd, EST ( eastern standard time) 1:30pm through March 4th, 4:30 pm EST. If you on PST remember you are three hours earlier.CST , two hours difference.
Freedom Has a Cost .........praying off and on all night and through the day.
Pegita.......praying throughout the day.
STARWISE.......throughout the day.
1:30- 2:30pm --Republic
2:30-3:30pm –-- Pollywog
3:30-4:30pm ----Pajamajan
4:30-5:30pm ---Pollywog
5:30-6:30pm
6:30-7:30pm
7:30-8:30pm
8:30-9:30pm
9:30-10:30pm----Diva Betsy Ross
10:30-11:30pm -------Nicmarlo
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March 4th,
11:30pm-12:30am -----Trussell
12:30am-1:30am ----Pegita ,Dandelion
1:30am-2:30am ---Diva Betsy Ross
2:30am-3:30am
3:30am-4:30am
4:30am-5:30am
5:30am-6:30am
6:30am-7:30am ----Tutstar
7:30am-8:30am ----Tutstar,Diva Betsy Ross
8:30am-9:30am -----Pollywog
9:30am-10:30am ------Ruoflaw , cyn , Halls
10:30am-11:30am -----Nanetteclaret
11:30am-12:30pm —-- Trussell
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During court proceedings
12:30pm-1:30pm-----Kitty Mittens
1:30pm-2:30pm --–Cyn
2:30pm-3:30pm ----Pollywog
3:30pm-4:30pm --- Wampus SC
4:30pm-5:30pm
I love your translation!
Bishop Lynch has spit in the eye of God! He has forgotten that God will not be mocked!
I don't think Charles Spencer would be a good choice. At Dianas funeral, during his eulogy, he took a couple of swipes at the royal family. A funeral is not the time to air family laundry. My personal opinion is that he lacks maturity and judgement.
Please ping me when you have this thread ready. I will ping the others to it. We can get the slots filled up quickly, I'm sure.
P.S. - Sorry I'm finding this so late. You probably already have this going as I type. I should be more available today than the last several days.
Pegita
thank you Pegita.
ProLife Ping!
If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.
Bishop Victor Galeone of Jacksonville has spoken out in favor of Terri's family.
It's there for the using ... and I bet OJ Greer's secretary has been handed the job of email reader, and is probably ready to tear her hair out and scream.
Let's remember, there are dozens and dozens of people working in quiet support positions and handling reams of paperwork and hundreds of phone calls and emails in the courts, state agencies, county and municipal agencies, hospitals, hospices, doctor's practices, Jodi's insurance agency ... you just never know where God will plant the seed of conscience nor who will be provoked and sickened enough to rise up and turn away from the sewer that is this situation and speak out.
Pray for righteous and decent people .. that hearts may be touched irrevocably by the cruelty and inhumanity they've witnessed and that they be given courage so that the world finally sees the truth. PRayers for Terri!
Pegita
Ping to the Prayer Warriors!
Continued prayers for Terri Schiavo.
Thank you for the ping, Pegita.
Trussell will return soon! (Continued prayer for her son, Cody)
TERRI SCHIAVO MARCH 2005 DAILIES Fla's Til of the Hun Sets March Date to Starve Terri, ping
Prayers for Terri.
Polly, I'm so sorry to hear about your grandson and your daughter's situation. I know that family court business is not very fun. I hope your daughter gets herself together so she can be a mom to her son soon.
Thursday, March 3, 2005
Thinking It Through by Dr. Richard Reeb
Terri Schiavo's husband wants her dead
The Terri Schiavo saga has been in court for 12 years. News articles invariably repeat the claim, accepted by the Florida courts, that the brain-damaged woman is in a vegetative state, even though her parents say otherwise. Her husband, Michael Schiavo, proposes that her feeding tube be removed, which would starve her to death in a few weeks.
Witnesses besides her parents claim that she is aware of what is going on, but is simply unable to communicate with words. Terri may not have what trendy liberals call "quality of life," but she has loving parents who are willing and able to care for her as long as she needs them.
At long last, millions of us are now seeing the face of this unfortunate woman in the media. With our own eyes we can see that, however impaired Terri Schiavo may be, she is not comatose or brain dead, but clinging to life. It is not unheard of for people long unconscious to regain consciousness, but Terri is not even unconscious. Yet MSNBC found a doctor who contended that she would feel no pain if she were starved to death.
As Gov. Jeb Bush and the Florida legislature try to figure out a way to save Mrs. Schiavo, she is impaired but not comatose from causes not settled, while a state judiciary has conferred a "right to die" on her that she never asked for. The Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, although not directly applicable to the case, gives us reasons for sparing her forced starvation, as her husband demands.
This amendment was written to protect the rights of all persons to life, liberty and property against arbitrary state infringement. This guarantee is applicable to incapacitated persons no less than everyone else. That other people must care for them is immaterial. After all, children must be cared for years after they are born, but no one has the right to end their lives.
Yet Florida courts continue, in effect, to deny the personhood of Mrs. Schiavo. The operative issue is: what would she want in this case? Her husband maintains that she told him she "wouldn't want to live like that." As everyone knows, she cannot speak for herself, but this is not because she is in a vegetative state. Her parents visit her daily and she appreciates those visits, becoming sad when they end. Witnesses have reported that she communicates with blinks and smiles and frowns.
Unfortunately, judges and lawyers in Terri Schiavo's case are too lazy to see her. If they did, they would learn that Terri is not comatose, or better off dead. By declaring her incompetent, the courts have reduced her to the equivalent of a nonperson, who might as well be dead. Her husband wants her dead because he wants to save the money set aside for her medical care and take it for himself.
Clarity on these factual matters is crucial to a right decision. But the Schiavo case has been shrouded in lies from the moment it became publicly known because lawyers and judges who seek to terminate "unwanted" persons are not easily deterred.
What seems especially to enrage some about the Schiavo case is that "third parties" besides her husband are involving themselves in it. These "third parties" begin with Terri's parents, who have enlisted the aid of many other people. The rage regarding "third parties" reminds me of how Abraham Lincoln characterized Stephen Douglas's argument for "popular sovereignty"(designed to prevent Americans outside the Western territories from banning slavery there): "If one man decides to enslave another man, no third man may object."
Do "third parties" not directly involved have the right to object to Mr. Schiavo starving his wife to death? Of course. As they are rightly alarmed by the possibility that a grave injustice, if not a murder, is about to occur. As long as Americans care about equal justice and their own futures, they can be counted on to take a strong interest.
Concerned Americans, then, realize that if Terri can be starved to death, so can others. If a feeding tube can be taken from a conscious person who seems not to be losing all hope for life or wishing it would end, nobody is safe. Doubtless, if Terri dies, similar "right to die" cases will be ginned up all over the country.
Is Terri in agony just because she needs to be fed through a tube? (No, but she will be while she starves.) Is her life no longer worth living? Hardly. But under the circumstances, the decision to starve her to death is not hers; it is the choice preferred by her husband, whose motives are not merely questionable but highly suspect.
Michael Schiavo has been living with another woman for two years and has fathered two children with her. He is spending the money awarded for Terri's botched medical procedure on his fight to take away her feeding tube. Mr. Schiavo has been quoted as saying, "Is that bitch still alive?" He could divorce his wife and be free of responsibility, but then he would be unable to collect the remainder of the settlement. The classical question in murder cases, cui bono? (who benefits?) is the right one to ask here.
As we have seen, Terri Schiavo is being treated as if she were not a person. Unless we are deluded by mere forms and miss the real substance of things, we can see that a man has a financial interest in his wife's death and is attempting to make it happen. Justice demands that she be saved.
Richard Reeb, Ph.D.
Richard Reeb taught political science, philosophy and journalism at Barstow College from 1970 to 2003. He is the author of "Taking Journalism Seriously: 'Objectivity' as a Partisan Cause" (University Press of America, 1999). He can be contacted at rhreeb@verizon.net
http://www.desertdispatch.com/2005/110986025279241.html
Yeah, some of the anti-Terri's suggest that it's just the few of us wackos who post here who do all that peering!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
Bookmarked for future reference.
Well said. A few people I am thinking of who desperately need to remember this are Michael, Jodi, Felos, Greer, Bishop Lynch....and maybe a few FReepers (although I'll bet they'll be screaming for our help and mercy should it happen to them).
Topics and Guests: March 3
Watch "On the Record"
Keeping Hope Alive — Mary and Bob Schindler, parents of severely brain-damaged Terri Schiavo (search), talk about their struggle to save their daughter’s life.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,44672,00.html
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