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Republican Disowns Lesbian Daughter (Keyes)
U.K. Guardian ^ | February 26, 2005 | Gary Younge

Posted on 02/26/2005 1:27:31 PM PST by srm913

Republican disowns lesbian daughter

Gary Younge Saturday February 26, 2005

Guardian When the leading Republican and rightwing pundit Alan Keyes was asked what he thought of Mary Cheney, the lesbian daughter of the US vice-president, he called her "a selfish hedonist". If his own daughter came out as a lesbian, said Mr Keyes, he would say the same thing.

So when Mr Keyes' only daughter, Maya Marcel-Keyes, declared herself a "liberal queer" at a public rally he lived up to his word. Her parents turned her out of their house, broke off all communication and stopped paying her university tuition fees.

Ms Keyes told a rally supporting gay young people in Maryland: "We have to figure out what we can do to make sure that during those times when it seems like everything in the world is turning against them, like everyone in the world is rejecting them, that they know there are resources out there they can turn to; there are people out there who will say to them, 'I care'."

Ms Keyes joins a list of gay people with rightwing relatives, including Mary Cheney and Candace Gingrich, the sister of Republican congressman Newt Gingrich. But Mr Keyes, a darling of the religious right, has been more outspoken on the issue than most.

Ms Keyes says her parents were "not too pleased" when she came out. "Things just came to a head. Liberal queer plus conservative Republican just doesn't mesh well."

Her older brother has offered her somewhere to stay and she has been given a scholarship to continue at college.

"My daughter is an adult, and she is responsible for her own actions. What she chooses to do has nothing to do with my work or political activities," Mr Keyes said in a statement.

Ms Keyes says she loves her parents and "totally understands" their position.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: alankeyes; homosexualagenda; mayakeyes
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To: Peach
Maya Keyes interview on CNN with Wolf Blitzer Monday, February 14, 2005

"WOLF BLITZER: Has there been a complete falling-out now between you and your father?

"MAYA KEYES: No. I love my parents very much. And they love me. And they disagree with what I'm doing at the moment. And, as such, they can't support me in this activity, but they are still always going to love me. I know that."

Keyes has apparently kept the lines of communication open enough that his daughter doesn't view this as a complete falling out. Again, his only offense is an unwillingness to fund a lifestyle contrary to what he believes is ethical.

401 posted on 02/27/2005 3:57:55 AM PST by ajr276
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To: ajr276

Yes. I've noted that.

But it sounds like quite a few freepers are going to be disappointed that he's still speaking to his daughter. According to them, he should not be speaking with her because she's gay. I find that kind of thinking disgraceful.


402 posted on 02/27/2005 4:00:03 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04
May I suggest you pay closer attentions to the complexities and positives of human variety and individua choice and less attention to anti-gay dogma. May I suggest you actually get to know a gay person (even, *gasp*, befriend them) before you go condemning them to the depths of hell

May I suggest that DU might prove to be a less taxing experience for you and the conservatives that will have to no longer read your pro-homosexual agenda postings.

403 posted on 02/27/2005 4:00:39 AM PST by DBeers
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To: DBeers

Ad hominems are not impressive arguments.


404 posted on 02/27/2005 6:59:44 AM PST by From many - one. (formerly e p1uribus unum)
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To: From many - one.
Ad hominems are not impressive arguments.

So why post one?

405 posted on 02/27/2005 7:25:11 AM PST by DBeers
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To: DBeers

Read your own prior post.


406 posted on 02/27/2005 7:28:07 AM PST by From many - one. (formerly e p1uribus unum)
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To: Peach
But it sounds like quite a few freepers are going to be disappointed that he's still speaking to his daughter. According to them, he should not be speaking with her because she's gay. I find that kind of thinking disgraceful.

After the thread has pretty much died out you come back and have spewed more nonsense... You have purposely avoided any Biblical references (that I have noticed) to back up your unfounded attacks. How about referencing your points. "Sounds like" just doesn't cut the mustard here on FR...

I have seen many great responses in debt on this thread, none of them seem to have originated from you. It just sounds like you can't back up your believes in my opinion. Twelve two lined responses in a row with no real substance does not equate answering to FR standards IMHO... It just makes it look like you are outclassed on this subject. No offense meant... just my observances...

407 posted on 02/27/2005 7:35:56 AM PST by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" -Benjamin Rush)
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To: From many - one.
With all due respect, you are mistaken when you say there is no proverb in the Bible saying "spare the rod and spoil the child".
Proverbs 13:24 says, "He that spareth the rod, hateth his son, but he who loveth him chasteneth him betimes".

The meaning is very clear to those who have eyes to see...

In modern day language, this means..."spare the rod and spoil the child"...sex doesn't matter...girls, as human beings, are as willful today as young men in biblical times.
408 posted on 02/27/2005 7:39:29 AM PST by yer gonna put yer eye out (Gettin' a PhD (Prettyhard on Democrats) at FR)
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To: Peach
If this is Keyes brand of Christianity, I don't want any part of it. What a disgraceful parent and role model.

AMEN to that.

409 posted on 02/27/2005 7:42:37 AM PST by Torties
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To: whatisthetruth

I think Keys hurts the Republicans because he takes the faith too literally. Like when he said God choose him to run in IL last year. You can feel like that, but just just come out and say it. It'll freak people out. And it's these types of statements. He needs to quiet down some and move a little smarter, centered.


410 posted on 02/27/2005 7:55:42 AM PST by Vision (The New York Times...All the news to fit a one world government)
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To: k2blader
That has got to be in the top 5 most asinine statements I've ever seen on FR.

Well I'm glad you accomplished something. I've come to believe that from my experience with homosexuals. It's also what they say when they heal themselves.
411 posted on 02/27/2005 7:57:52 AM PST by Vision (The New York Times...All the news to fit a one world government)
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To: From many - one.
Read your own prior post.

I wrote my posts -your homosexual sensitivies are noted; however, I they are in error.

412 posted on 02/27/2005 8:00:31 AM PST by DBeers
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To: k2blader

And if you get this emotional over something, you should explore your feelings because you've done it to yourself.


413 posted on 02/27/2005 8:00:52 AM PST by Vision (The New York Times...All the news to fit a one world government)
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To: LowOiL

LOL!

That's cute. So if one doesn't respond right away (perhaps you noted where I went out), and doesn't give Biblical references, then one isn't a good enough Christian for you. Interesting concept.

And I note your late addition to the thread, but that's okay, I'm sure.

I'll stand by my statements. I don't think good Christians stop talking to their child because they are gay.

And, perhaps you haven't noticed the transcript of Keyes daughter, but they ARE still speaking, despite the mis-reporting of this article.

So you should write to Keyes and tell HIM that he's not a good enough Christian for YOU. After all, he's still speaking to his daughter. And she's gay. It sounds like that would be your position. And you're welcome to it. Disgraceful a position though it is.


414 posted on 02/27/2005 8:06:41 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Righty_McRight
When the leading Republican and rightwing pundit Alan Keyes

Is he really a leading republican? I never hear much about the guy.

He only became a "leading Republican" to the MSM the minute he spoke out against his lesbian daughter.

415 posted on 02/27/2005 8:14:49 AM PST by ItsForTheChildren
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To: Mr. Blonde

No, You have to be 100% Christian and Conservative, never denying or disagreeing with the conservative agenda, or your just considered a whining fence sitter! Some people on this forum see everything in the world as black and white. Those people are odd and very unhappy its sad really.


416 posted on 02/27/2005 8:37:40 AM PST by coreenlarisa (No sUBJECT)
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To: Nathaniel Fischer

I agree with you and that's why, once I read the transcript, I've mentioned once or twice that perhaps they should write to Keyes and tell them how disappointed they are in his particular brand of Christianity.

Most of these so-called Christians think he should not speak with his daughter because she's gay. How disappointed they must be in him. (sarcasm)

I don't know what churches they go to, but in the Catholic and Episcopal churches, we don't stop speaking to our family members because they are gay. Although I'm not in love with the Episcopal church, after reading today's comments, I'll stay there.


418 posted on 02/27/2005 8:49:06 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: yer gonna put yer eye out

One more time:

The exact quote "Spare the rod and spoil the child" is from Hudibras by Butler.

The big difference is that there is absolutely no quote anyone has ever given me that includes daughters or is at least gender neutral. There is also no quote that allows mothers to hit their kids of either sex.

Oh, and that "Spare the rod..." from Hudibras is in this context:

"Love is a boy
By poets styl'd
Then spare the rod
and spoil the child"

It was written by Samuel Butler to mock the Puritans, and even there addressed only hitting boys.


419 posted on 02/27/2005 8:52:13 AM PST by From many - one. (formerly e p1uribus unum)
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To: Peach

Gee, if they consider not paying for college tuition "disowning" my parents disowned me too.


420 posted on 02/27/2005 8:52:37 AM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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