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Study: Native Americans Weren't The First
The Discovery Channel ^ | 9-6-2004 | Jennifer Viegas

Posted on 02/25/2005 6:08:54 PM PST by blam

Study: Native Americans Weren't the First

By Jennifer Viegas, Discovery News

Sept. 6, 2004 — DNA analysis of skulls found in Baja California that belonged to an extinct tribe called the Pericues reveal that the Pericues likely were not related to Native Americans and that they probably predated Native Americans in settling the Americas, according to an announcement Monday.

The finding, released at the British Association for the Advancement of Science (BA) Festival of Science in Exeter, England, adds support to the theory that a number of groups arrived in the Americas via different routes and at varying times, possibly as early as 25,000 years ago.

Kennewick Man: Not Native American?

The study also suggests that the two oldest known Americans — Peñon woman and Kennewick Man — might have belonged to the Pericues tribe.

Even before the DNA analysis, Silvia Gonzalez, lead author of the study and a geoarchaeologist from Liverpool John Moores University, noticed that the Pericues skulls were long and narrow, as opposed to the more broad and round features found in early Native American skulls.

"Because of their skull morphology, long and narrow (dolicocephalic) the Pericues could be related to the oldest Americans known, which are Peñon Woman in the Basin of Mexico at 12,755 before the present, and Kennewick Man at 9,700 years old," Gonzalez told Discovery News just before Monday's announcement.

"Hence, if this was true, they would be older than the Native Indians. The oldest dated Pericue material is only 3,000 years before the present, although there are cave paintings in Baja California dated to 7,500 BP and Clovis points that must be 11,000-11,500 years old."

The genetic study suggests that the Pericues did not originate in Northern Asia, where many experts believe Native Americans first came from. Instead, Gonzalez said the Pericues are closer to the ancient populations of southern Asia, Australia, and the South Pacific Rim.

The surprising link to early Australasian-Melanesian people could mean that the first Americans arrived in the New World in some kind of floating craft that traveled over the Pacific Ocean.

"A coastal Pacific migration route is possible," Gonzalez said.

She explained that the Pericues were a hunter-gatherer society that lived on shellfish, fish, cacti and other plants in the desert area of Baja California. Objects found in the area suggest that the Pericues used stone tools.

Gonzalez indicated that they had a complex burial system involving mortuary-like burial areas located both along the coast and in caves. She said they also used wooden spear throwers, and likely painted bones with red ochre, as early decorated shells and pearls have been found in Baja.

"The missionary descriptions indicated that the men were naked and the women wore grass skirts, and they were very tall and slim," Gonzalez added. "They became extinct during the 18th century due to the lifestyle changes imposed by the missionaries to a sedentary way of life."

Chris Stringer, head of human origins at The Natural History Museum London, told Discovery News, "This work is very important in adding further weight to the idea that the first inhabitants of the Americas did not resemble present-day Native Americans.

"These finds are physically distinct and some Mexican fossils have been dated close to the earliest known human occupation of the Americas," he said.

He added, "However, it is difficult to trace their point of origin as people 10,000 or 20,000 years ago did not look like their modern counterparts in many parts of the world, including Africa, Europe, and China.

"It is likely that southeast Asia 20,000 years ago was inhabited by people who more closely resembled present-day Polynesians or Australian aborigines so this could indeed be a source for the first Americans. They could have taken a coastal route to get there around the North Pacific Rim — it seems unlikely that they came directly across the Pacific."

Silvia Gonzalez believes several migrations took place, with people coming from North East Siberia, the Western Pacific, and even from Europe.

So far, the fossil database in the Americas, beyond the more recent Native American finds, has proven to be quite sparse, perhaps due to weather-related erosion of remains. Gonzalez hopes future DNA studies, craniometrics (skull analysis), and additional evidence will shed more light on the Pericues and other early Americans.


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KEYWORDS: americans; dna; first; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; native; study; werent
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To: blam

The Tocharians are an entirely different group of Caucasians who are most closely related to the ancient Celtics. I do believe the original homeland of the Caucasians was in what is present day China. The oldest paper ever found was in China and it had Tocharian-A (an Indo-European language) written on it. The Curse Of The Red-Headed Mummy.
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blam

didn't we see some genetic studies that showed the white races originated somewhere in that area between the caspian and black seas. the way they did it was to check back through several mutations. to see where the earliest mutation began. I think this was the same study that showed bit of ghengis khan here there and yon.


81 posted on 02/26/2005 7:47:04 AM PST by ckilmer
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To: blam
Study: Native Americans Weren't the First

Does that mean they have to give up their casinos ;-)

82 posted on 02/26/2005 7:50:13 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Argus
The guy in the picture looks a lot like Patrick Stewart

Wow! You're the first on a Kennewick Man thread to ever make that observation.

83 posted on 02/26/2005 7:57:09 AM PST by ASA Vet (Never take anything I say series. (Including this.))
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To: machman
that is what humans have been doing since the dawn of time.


84 posted on 02/26/2005 8:01:24 AM PST by ASA Vet (Never take anything I say series. (Including this.))
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To: redheadtoo

It must have been that episode where Captain Picard was trying to smuggle some Romulan Cabo Wabo, and got caught in a time warp . . .


85 posted on 02/26/2005 8:03:40 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Argus
The guy in the picture looks a lot like Patrick Stewart.

Make it so, Number One..!

86 posted on 02/26/2005 8:05:43 AM PST by Osage Orange (Hillary Clinton's so crooked...you can't tell from her tracks whether she's coming or going....)
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To: Strategerist

Fact is, we don't know. They didn't let scientists study Kennewick man and many other old skeletons. I don't care if he was blond or brunette, black, brown or white. I'm sick of having guilt thrust upon me for "wiping out the Indians." I have a right to be here too.


87 posted on 02/26/2005 8:12:12 AM PST by followerofchrist
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To: blam

All this doesn't matter, except to the scientifically curious.
For political reasons, the media elite and the government have decided that the ancestors of the current "native Americans" are the original inhabitants of the Western Hemisphere. And in the view of the elites, the litany of wrong committed against them is endless.
Hence, "native Americans" are victims and are entitled to deference and special privileges.
Once a decision of this sort is made, ITS MADE. GET USED TO IT.


88 posted on 02/26/2005 8:13:59 AM PST by quadrant
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To: itsahoot

HMmmm. This might mean that the USA is actually the property of Yorkshire, England. We knew it was ours all along!


89 posted on 02/26/2005 8:16:49 AM PST by kingsurfer
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To: quadrant
All this doesn't matter, except to the scientifically curious.

"Dr Zaius, why would Apes make a human doll that talks?"

Once a decision of this sort is made, ITS MADE. GET USED TO IT.

90 posted on 02/26/2005 8:23:00 AM PST by ASA Vet (FR needs a science forum.)
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To: blam

Thank you kind sir for another great thread.


91 posted on 02/26/2005 8:24:31 AM PST by ASA Vet (FR needs a science forum.)
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To: followerofchrist
"They didn't let scientists study Kennewick man and many other old skeletons."

The ninth circuit court (of all places) has declared that the scientists can/may study Kennewick Man...the Indians failed make the case that he was one of their ancestors. This was a losing case until The Smithsonian Institute put their full backing to let the scientists study. Specifically Doug Owsley at the Smithsonian. I ordered a subscription to their magazine out of appreciation.

92 posted on 02/26/2005 8:45:03 AM PST by blam
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To: msnimje

You folks have motivated me.

From now on, I declare myself an "Eden-American", as my ancestors originated in the Garden of Eden.


93 posted on 02/26/2005 8:45:44 AM PST by G Larry (Aggressively promote conservative judges!)
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To: Argus

Add my vote to the list.


94 posted on 02/26/2005 8:47:45 AM PST by steveo (Member: Fathers Against Rude Television)
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To: followerofchrist

Why should you feel guilty for something you didn't do? You are here already aren't you? Personally the folks I notice who obsess over Kennwick Man are also posters on SF. Reminds me of black folks who obsess over Egyptians.


95 posted on 02/26/2005 8:51:57 AM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Coyoteman

"Ainu were not related to Caucasoids. They were described (by more modern Japanese) as hairy, etc., "like Europeans,' but there is no relationship."



Esau Jacob/Israel's brother, was described as 'hairy'.


96 posted on 02/26/2005 8:52:01 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Lessismore
Excellent, excellent map. (and, I love maps)

This is the same map explained in Oppenheimer's book, Out Of Eden, but is not contained in that book. His previous book, Eden In The East, portrays a little different story.

97 posted on 02/26/2005 9:05:32 AM PST by blam
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To: Just mythoughts
"Ainu were not related to Caucasoids. They were described (by more modern Japanese) as hairy, etc., "like Europeans,' but there is no relationship."

Esau Jacob/Israel's brother, was described as 'hairy'.

Sorry to hear that.

98 posted on 02/26/2005 9:30:38 AM PST by Coyoteman
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

Look more closely. Patrick Stewart has neither the cheekbones or the brow ridges of the bust shown. If you put a lot of dark, coarse hair on that bust, it looks like an Ainu.


99 posted on 03/01/2005 2:57:43 PM PST by Renfield (Philosophy chair at the University of Wallamalloo!!)
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To: Renfield
Since I've never actually seen an Ainu, I'll take your word for it! ;)
100 posted on 03/01/2005 3:21:40 PM PST by Bear_in_RoseBear (100!)
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