Posted on 02/24/2005 3:55:40 PM PST by traumer
Almost 50 percent of Americans, according to recent polls, and millions of people elsewhere in the world believe that UFOs are real. For many it is a deeply held belief.
For decades there have been sightings of UFOs by millions and millions of people. It is a mystery that only science can solve, and yet the phenomenon remains largely unexamined. Most of the reporting on this subject by the mainstream media holds those who claim to have seen UFOs up to ridicule.
On Feb. 24, "Peter Jennings Reporting: UFOs — Seeing Is Believing" takes a fresh look at the UFO phenomenon. "As a journalist," says Jennings, "I began this project with a healthy dose of skepticism and as open a mind as possible. After almost 150 interviews with scientists, investigators and with many of those who claim to have witnessed unidentified flying objects, there are important questions that have not been completely answered — and a great deal not fully explained."
"Peter Jennings Reporting: UFOs — Seeing Is Believing" airs Thursday, Feb. 24 from 8-10 p.m. ET on ABC. The program will be broadcast in High Definition.
This two-hour primetime special reports on the entire scope of the UFO experience — from the first famous sighting by Kenneth Arnold in 1947 to the present day. The program draws on interviews with police officers, pilots, military personnel, scientists and ordinary citizens who give extraordinary accounts of encounters with the unexplained. Also included are the voices of professional skeptics about UFOs, including scientists who are leading the search for life forms beyond Earth elsewhere in the universe.
The program explores the facts behind the enduring mystery of the incident at Roswell, N.M., and looks into the strange stories of alien abductions. Among the UFO cases presented:
Minot Air Force Base, N.D., October 1968 — Sixteen airmen on the ground and the crew of an airborne B-52 witness a massive unidentified object hovering near the base.
Phoenix, March 1997 — Hundreds witness a huge triangular craft moving slowly over the city.
St. Clair County, Ill., January 2000 — Police officers in five adjoining towns all independently report witnessing a giant craft with multiple bright lights moving silently across the sky at a very low altitude.
Today if you report a UFO to the U.S. government you will be informed that the Air Force conducted a 22-year investigation that ended in 1969 and concluded that UFOs are not a threat to national security and are of no scientific interest. But as one of the world's leading theoretical physicists says in the program, "You simply cannot dismiss the possibility that some of these UFO sightings are actually sightings from some object created by … a civilization perhaps millions of years ahead of us in technology."
"Peter Jennings Reporting: UFOs — Seeing Is Believing" is produced by PJ Productions and Springs Media for ABC News. Mark Obenhaus and Tom Yellin are the executive producers.
where was this? corroboration? others or reports?
For example. You still have not BEGUN to explain these PERSISTENT BASIC FACTS.
1) Cow/Cattle are in say the more or less the middle of a field--or wherever in the field but say away from fences etc.
2) Farmer and family watching from farmhouse 50-a few hundred feet away.
3) A silent intense light appears above the cattle in the field.
4) It has snowed since the cow has been in that spot.
5) No tracks to or from that spot across the snow.
6) Cow is seen to rise in the air in the light and disappear into a darkened space.
7) within 20 minutes to an hour, the cow is returned and obviously dropped from a significant height to very close to the same spot the cow was taken from.
8) Vet is called immediately and arrives (in some cases from a neighboring farm) very quickly.
9) Vet notes no tracks to or from the spot.
10) Vet notes incisions and total lack of blood. Has absolutely no conventional explanation for the incisions or lack of blood. Asserts no human method known to him could achieve the particular types of excisions or the total lack of blood. Not a drop of blood on the snow. Not a drop of blood left in the animal.
11) Farm dogs and other critters walk a WIDE BIRTH--50-150 feet around the carcas even when the path leads right next to the carcus.
12) No flies appear on the carcas for at least many months. Anything close to conventional decay does not set in for many months.
Freepy, you have NOT BEGUN to explain any of the above persistent key points of virtually all authentic UFO type mutilations.
You have not BEGUN to explain such facts to yourself, much less to us.
THX.
True.
I figure, BTW, that any person left alive when events conclude--who was alive when Israel became a nation again in a day in 1948--one person left alive for the end would fulfill the generation thing. That could mean 100+ years from 1948.
But the rush of history leads me to conclude that it's much more likely in the next 3-15, highly probable within the next 25 years.
Hi Quix.
Watched the show last night - first time I've watched a TV show in a really long time - also, since it was not cable, I was able to get it.
I thought the special pretty good, to be honest. Non committal, as expected.
The Mogul solution makes some sense to me RE Roswell, although there are other things that need explaining there. The number of flakes attracted to and the amount money extacted from Roswell have muddied the water of that case, to say the least.
The LEO and pilot testimony in the beginning of the show was quite compelling, IMO, especially the guys from the B-52. It was nice seeing the footage of Dr. Hynek, too. Also, the CUNY prof at the very end made an impression.
Lots of ground they could have covered, but didn't find time for - ancient astronauts, panspermia, Magonia for instance.
I am something of a skeptic, but find it difficult to dismiss a lot of the reports, considering the qualifications and variety of the observers. As for those demanding physical proof, that is kind of like a member of a primitive isolated tribe demanding proof of the existence of airplanes by demanding to be shown an actual piece of one (Putting aside for a moment the theories that we do have actual wreckage and pieces). Airplanes do exist, even though not everyone has access to a piece of one.
Anyhow, whether or not it is true that we are being visited by UFO's, the idea is fascinating, compelling and plausible. I agree with those who think it worthy of continued series exploration. Actually, "worthy" is probably not a strong enough term.
tHANKS.
Are you aware that the MOGUL dummies were not used AT ALL IN THE MOGUL PROGRAM UNTIL 3-5 YEARS AFTER the Rosewell crashes?
He was on the show! He was on the show!
"where was this?"
Los Angeles, Marshall High School.
I don't know that there were any "reports", just some friends of mine and I sat there and watched the show and thought it interesting. No need to "report" it, the jet pilots could do that if they wanted to.
I never thought it was a big deal, just interesting.
I still don't give a damn who made them or where they came from.
Yes, I am not dismissing Roswell out of hand, as Jennings did last night. I just thought the Mogul explanation can explain at least the quantity of stuff found by Marcel and the other guy, if not all the reported characteristics of it. Not the bodies, of course. OTOH, Stanton Friedman and Kevin Randle don't make a very good impression, I don't think. They seem always to be caught up in sniping at each other. I am more skeptical on Roswell than some of the other arguments for the presence of aliens here.
Yep,
Relative to me I really don't care. If I die before; I am with my Lord. If not He will take me to be with Him before it starts.
Because I trust Him solely for my salvation all my roads end with Him ...
FH
PS: As far as UFOs go I do not see the big deal. If they do exist then God made'm too ... If not they sure are a fun science fiction genera !
p.s. I still hate that Skeptical Inquirer guy.....whattaturd
Yes, I have considered it. However, as a Christian, who has a very strong faith built through experience, I submit to you I have a stronger consideration that your theory is one of the non-believer (in God), sent specifically to distract from his greatness. Not you, necessarily, but there are many ties between atheism if not satanism, and the UFO cult.
There is little doubt people are seeing "something", however there is little proof of what it actually is. As for your airplane analogy, I don't think it takes into consideration that "spaceships in the sky" and "little green men" are inventions of the 20th century. Yes, some ancient pictures show man in the sky, but could have been based on hope, or desire, and rarely if ever has there been an ancient picture of a "flying saucer". If alien civilizations actually exist, and they wish to visit earth, and are capable, I think it highly unlikely their arrival would exactly coincide with human flight.
I believe you.
I think there are in fact fairly numerous reports of UFO's dating back to medieval times and before. Jacques Vallee catalogued some of them, I believe.
I acknowledge, however, that UFO's seem to have a tendency to validate preconceptions. It's logical to me that expectations could shape perceptions of reality.
My analogy of savages in a jungle was meant to illustrate that the tribesmen, regardless of how they explain the presence of airplanes in the sky, probably do not actually deny their existence.
Now what if Jesus were in reality a "spaceman" or the spawn of a "spaceman"?
Heck, this is back to the future...I was kicked out of a Methodist -sponsored discussion group touted to "bring the youth back by unlimited and unfettered discussion" for asking just this same question...that was in ??? 1966?
not much use for the Methodist Church since then, bolstered by their billions supporting leftists, socialists, reverse discrimination, murderous cultures and dictators... and yeah, their caption on the Sunday School literature " Martin Luther King Is Just Like Jesus" was not kindly received at that time either
waiting for the slams....
I will look into his work, thanks. But many ancients believed comets and shooting stars were piloted by man as well. Unfortunately, some fools believe it to this day.
My analogy of savages in a jungle was meant to illustrate that the tribesmen, regardless of how they explain the presence of airplanes in the sky, probably do not actually deny their existence.
Because they still knew they did not have acess to the entire earth, and the sightings could be predictable based on scheduling.
Doubtful, the teachings of Jesus do not overlap the messages typically given to those supposedly abducted by supposed aliens. In fact, the messages given to those abducted by supposed aliens is often that Jesus is a sham, and that those who believe are absolute idiots.
I could understand how those who don't believe in Christ could believe the conflict between the two "unknowns", Chirst vs. aliens, are similar. However, there is a documented history of absolute miracles performed by Christ, and upon those who have tremendous faith in him after his death, that provide greater proof of his existence.
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