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Blue States Secession: One Southerner’s Perspective
CONSERVATIVE TRUTH.ORG ^ | NOVEMBER 22, 2004 | JAMES ATTICUS BOWDEN

Posted on 02/23/2005 9:13:07 PM PST by CHARLITE

Liberals are talking about the Blue States seceding from the Union. There’s a map on the Internet of the Blue States joining Canada. This is too serious for idle talk from the chattering class. Secession, if followed by invasion, conquest, occupation and ultimately cultural cleansing, is a terrible thing. Trust me, Southerners know about this. We need to help these Liberal hotheads cool down.

First, are the root causes worthy of sundering the Great Experiment – Democracy in America? Apparently, the two most important reasons for secession are partial-birth abortion and homosexual marriage. The Liberals are kidding, right? They can’t live in a society that bans infanticide – as every state did before the U.S. Supreme Court made up law, science and medicine in 1973. And, Liberals can’t survive where homosexuals can’t marry – as they never have, ever, from the tiniest tribe to the greatest (and most decadent) civilizations - until last year in the Netherlands? Ok, maybe we can’t make an argument against the sanctity of life and marriage just to keep the Liberals from leaving.

Second, there are serious survival issues of National Defense. The Red States would probably keep the nukes, since the Blue States would find them so environmentally offensive. I reckon the Red States, with 150 to 200 million people, are the same size of the whole U.S. from WW II through most of the Cold War (WW III). We can field large enough Armed Services since the South, Heartland and West are over-represented in today’s ranks. Red forces can keep women well away from combat – it’s a Southern thing about men protecting women and women nurturing families.

Third, will we lose WW IV? Blue States, like France and Germany, may not want to fight the Islamists anywhere we find their snake pits. Red States could lead the Coalition of the Willing, just as they provide the backbone today for U.S. will. Red States will never abandon Israel – it’s an Evangelical Christian thing about loving the Jews. So, fighting the Islamists for centuries appears not to be a problem.

But, certainly, there has to be some ruin. If the Blue States secede and join socialist, Criminalizing-Christian speech Canada, then they would be like Canada. That means we could ignore the Blue States totally, not care less about what they say or do, and make money trading with them – like Canada? This secession may not be a bad idea after all. Something must be terrible on the domestic front.

First, the Red States could live in a Federal Republic, like the Founders’ intended, with a Constitutionally-limited National Government – and an awesome military. The Blue States couldn’t impose their Liberal rule through a tyrannical judiciary. Today’s Judiciary would be abolished and rebuilt with strict Constitutional constructionist judges.

Second, the Red States could control illegal immigration without black-robed priest kings ruling away sovereignty from the bench. Hey, that means the Red States could control which Yankees move south? We could ban too many from contributing to urban sprawl and never, just never, stop telling us how it isn’t like ‘up North’? Our Judeo-Christian and Confederate heritage could be respected as history. End PC multiculturalism? Yi, Yi!

Third, the Blue States are ‘donor’ states to the Red in taxes that go into Federal programs. The Red States would have to live with fewer Federal programs, lower taxes and less Federal regulation. Possibly, the Red State governments would be poorer but individuals would be freer. Is that a bad thing? Every Southerner is descended from people who were dirt poor, values rich, and heroically strong after that last unpleasant attempt at secession. There are far worse things than being poor. Besides, truth is, the Capitalist Red economy would expand faster than Blue Socialism.

There has to be reason to beg the Blue States to stay. Surely, there’s something.

Hmmm, we will never be ruled by Hillary…makes you wonder.

Okay, just let the Blue States go. We can work out the borders. Big Red will need a corridor across California to San Diego for our Pacific port and fleet. Blue gets Washington, DC. Red gets the Pentagon. Maybe Arlington Cemetery will be an international zone, but Red will guard it. Blue gets the United Nations headquarters and debt. How about a coin toss for the name - United States of America - and for Old Glory as the flag? If Red loses, I know a design we can use with the Cross of St. Andrew.

Comments:JAtticus@aol.com

James Atticus Bowden has specialized in inter-disciplinary long range 'futures' studies for over a decade. He is employed by a Defense Department contractor for the Future Combat Systems. He is a retired United States Army Infantry Officer. He is a 1972 graduate of the United States Military Academy and earned graduate degrees from Harvard University and Columbia University. He holds two elected Republican Party offices in Virginia.


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To: dixiechick2000

It'll be great. My aunt lives in Florida. My mom can finally make good on her threat to leave NY. Blue state democrats running the show would have NY looking like Mad Max.


21 posted on 02/24/2005 5:46:25 AM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: DixieOklahoma; kalee; dljordan; Da Bilge Troll; nolu chan; sionnsar; Free Trapper; dcwusmc; ...

dixieping


23 posted on 02/24/2005 6:03:05 AM PST by stainlessbanner (Let's all pray for HenryLee II)
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To: CHARLITE
Just a reminder:

25 posted on 02/24/2005 6:18:34 AM PST by RebelBanker (To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!)
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To: GeorgiaConservative
Who says Canada would want them in the first place? California alone has more people than the ten provinces of Canada. Additionally, Canada has its own secession advocates. In some respects, Alberta is more "American" than Massachusetts. Alberta and possibly Saskatchewan and Manitoba would likely be happier with a republic of "red" states, which would be more friendly to agriculture and energy, than the present government in Ottawa. Were that to happen, the western "blue" states, or possibly the "rumps" of the three West Coast states, as the inland areas would imitate what West Virginia did in 1862, would be isolated from the eastern ones.

The "blue" states would never form a cohesive unit.

26 posted on 02/24/2005 6:23:46 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: CHARLITE; stainlessbanner

.....there's little doubt in my mind that the country will break apart, but it won't be over political differences......it will be over race......I expect blacks will get the South, Latinos will get the Southwest, Anglo-European Judeo-Christians will get the Midwest & West,the Northeast will be diverse ect. ect.......there may be independant city states thrown in.....ie a gay-lesbian-vegan-eco-socialist collective would run San Francisco for instance......or say Miami would be the capital of Carib-America.....


27 posted on 02/24/2005 6:26:58 AM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Works for me. I'd love to finally move back to Tennessee, and live amongst sane people once more. :)


My dream is to retire in eastern Tennesse or North Carolina.


28 posted on 02/24/2005 6:34:19 AM PST by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: CHARLITE
come BLUE SECESSION DAY, i'll personally make a special trip to the new international border to wish the SOCIALIST/statist, arrogant,hateFILLED, IGNORANT damnyankees "BYE-BYE!" & "FAREWELL!"

i suspect the name of their new nation will be something like:

THE PEOPLES SOCIALIST SECULAR REPUBLIC of AMERIKA.

free dixie,sw

29 posted on 02/24/2005 8:07:50 AM PST by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: RebelBanker
works for me!

BUT i can't imagine that the NICE FOLKS of Canada would want the hateful,rude, arrogant damnyankees in their country EITHER!

free dixie,sw

30 posted on 02/24/2005 8:16:46 AM PST by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: RebelBanker

bttt


31 posted on 02/24/2005 8:17:31 AM PST by stainlessbanner (Let's all pray for HenryLee II)
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To: LoudRepublicangirl
come HOME darlin'!

free dixie,sw

32 posted on 02/24/2005 8:17:51 AM PST by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: CHARLITE
Why not just let the red counties seceed? There are some fine Blue areas in red states. Geez, even most of California is Blue on the map. It's just the big population zones that are red.

I wonder what percentage of the Democratic votes in the country came from their top 10 counties or congressional districts. I mean, if you take out Manhattan, Boston, Bay Area, Chicago/Cook County, Detroit/Wayne County, Seattle, Philly, etc., what do the dems have left? A few scattered Indian reservations, and long island?

33 posted on 02/24/2005 8:22:15 AM PST by Koblenz (Holland: a very tolerant country. Until someone shoots you on a public street in broad daylight...)
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To: CHARLITE

Actually, this article makes sense with two exceptions. Parts of Canada, like Alberta, are conservative. Likewise with a lot of the Blue States. Take away Philly and Pa is a Red State, take away NYC and NY is a Red State,etc... Even though NJ will NEVER go Red again, the NW portion where I live is ultra-conservative. They can have all of RI though.


34 posted on 02/24/2005 8:25:12 AM PST by MattinNJ (Stop voter fraud-enact voter ID cards with photos w/ magnetic stripes that prevent multiple voting)
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To: stand watie

come HOME darlin'!



I'm looking foward to being Dixie-bound, believe me. There is no place greater than the South!


35 posted on 02/24/2005 9:39:18 AM PST by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: GeronL

Correct. Within a few years, we'd need to apply the "Bush Doctrine" to the Blue States, and spread democracy into those strongholds of "politically correct" tyranny.


36 posted on 02/24/2005 9:45:22 AM PST by My2Cents ("Friends stab you from the front." -- Oscar Wilde)
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To: Wallace T.

You got it right, at least most of it. We trade the blue states for the conservative Canadian provinces. It's a win win deal; then Atlanta becomes the nation's financial center. As far as doing without federal money is concerned from the "donor states", to hell with it.


37 posted on 02/24/2005 9:51:24 AM PST by Nucluside
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To: LoudRepublicangirl

Been to New Mexico?


38 posted on 02/24/2005 9:53:37 AM PST by Nucluside
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To: Nucluside

Briefly. It just doesn't do it for me. I have a Southern soul(as in Southeast, not Southwest)


39 posted on 02/24/2005 10:27:15 AM PST by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: Koblenz
Why not just let the red counties seceed? There are some fine Blue areas in red states. Geez, even most of California is Blue on the map. It's just the big population zones that are red.

Concur. The counties are sufficiently large to provide suitable targets for airstrikes should they prove troublesome.


40 posted on 02/24/2005 2:03:32 PM PST by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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