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School can't locate Churchill's thesis: UI officials not sure master's paper was required
Rocky Mountain News ^ | 2/23/05 | Berny Morson

Posted on 02/23/2005 8:48:38 AM PST by freespirited

University of Illinois officials said Tuesday they can't locate Ward Churchill's master's thesis and aren't sure if he was required to write one.

The embattled University of Colorado ethnic-studies professor claims undergraduate and graduate degrees from the University of Illinois' Springfield campus, which was known as Sangamon State University until 1995. Springfield is in Sangamon County.

University of Illinois at Springfield spokeswoman Cheryl Peck confirmed that Churchill received a bachelor's degree in 1974 and a master's degree in 1975. But no thesis is on file, she said.

"We can't say for sure he didn't write one," Peck said. It is not clear if a thesis was a requirement at the time Churchill received the degree in communications, she said.

CU spokeswoman Pauline Hale said she did not know if faculty members inquired about Churchill's thesis in 1991 before giving him tenure.

Documents released last week by CU indicate some faculty members had reservations about granting tenure to a professor who lacked a doctorate.

The documents are silent on a master's thesis.

On Tuesday, Illinois faculty members described Sangamon State - in the 1970s, when Churchill attended - as focused on innovative teaching methods, including an emphasis on social issues of the day.

The campus did not have academic departments. Instead, faculty members were rostered under interdisciplinary groupings, including Churchill's major, communications in a technological society.

Students could major in traditional subjects, such as history or English, but they could also design their own majors in consultation with the faculty.

Larry Golden, a political scientist and one of the original professors when Sangamon opened in 1970, said the school was not as freewheeling as it sounds.

Proposals for self-designed majors were given extensive faculty review, he said.

The campus served only juniors, seniors and master's-degree students. They would have taken the standard courses at a two-year college before coming to Sangamon.

The program included an "applied-studies term," in which students earned credit by working off campus. Projects ranged from working with a state legislator to community organizing.

The students were required to take part in a seminar and write journals or term papers as part of the program, Golden said.

"You couldn't just go to an anti-war rally in Washington and say, 'That's my experience,' " Golden said.


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KEYWORDS: academia; churchill; fakeindian; hateamericafilth; hatingamerica; leftistwackos; mastersthesis; sangamonstate; ucolorado; wardchurchill; wazzathesis
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To: freespirited

Perhaps it's in a lockbox like Hillarys.


81 posted on 02/23/2005 9:50:34 AM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (We have the best politicians corporate money can buy)
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To: freespirited
From "Radical University" to Handmaiden of the Corporate State

In 1970 Sangamon State University, the smallest of Illinois' 12 state universities, was a different kind of place. Many students were not graded, for example, but received individualized evaluations instead. There were no large classes. No deans or department chairs--in fact, no departments. Interdisciplinary courses were the norm. Faculty were hired for their interest in teaching--without teaching assistants--and had no publish-or-perish requirement. SSU was designated "the public affairs university of Illinois" at a time when public affairs, for many of the faculty at least, meant opposing the war in Vietnam and devising alternatives to mainstream institutions. It was an upper-division institution designed for older students transferring in from community colleges and traditional four-year institutions less suited to their needs; the average age of undergraduates was over 30. Faculty and students who were around at the time describe those days with obvious affection.

[Much more on Sangamon at the link above.]
82 posted on 02/23/2005 9:50:37 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Until 10 minutes ago, I didn't have any kind of engineering degree. I just got off the phone with Judith Albino (President of CU). I told her that depsite what my transcript says, I was really studying engineering and that I had just downloaded my thesis that should have been included with my other degree. Instead of civil engineering, she bargained me down to a social engineering degree instead, but was also able to change my U of I (Champaign) MBA degree to a Master's degree in S.E. from Sagamom State.

I think that with my 11 years as a little Eichman and my new degrees in social engineering, I will have the freedom to finally open that chinchilla ranch I have always wanted to. Hopefully Ward can help me with the chinchilla drives, I hear they are pesky critters.


83 posted on 02/23/2005 9:51:43 AM PST by Patinator (Free Ward, aka little old lady from Texas named Midge)
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To: freespirited

Great education...he participated in community activism (as a fake Indian) and kept a private journal. Har har!


84 posted on 02/23/2005 9:51:56 AM PST by Ciexyz (I use the term Blue Cities, not Blue States. PA is red except for Philly, Pgh & Erie)
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To: Patinator
Just flash em that pic of Ward Churchill holding that AK-47, they'll fall into FORMATION ASAP!


85 posted on 02/23/2005 9:55:50 AM PST by HMFIC (Fourth Generation American INFIDEL and PROUD OF IT!)
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To: libstripper

So much for freedom of speech. It is so obvious to me that libs do not have the freedom to dissent on the major lib issues. You either spout the entire party line or suffer the consequences. Must be like living in a strait jacket. No real intellectual freedom at all.


86 posted on 02/23/2005 9:57:01 AM PST by papadoc1945
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To: freespirited

I checked that site, pirateballerina.com, very interesting, thanks. The good professor has the nerve of a burglar: surprised he hasn't claimed the neck decoration.


87 posted on 02/23/2005 9:58:03 AM PST by tumblindice (Our Founding Fathers: all conservative gun owners)
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To: ken21
down at the county they were handing out pay checks from some carter program to miniorities. they didn't do anything work for the pay.

C.E.T.A. bums

hey, man...whatsamatter, you some kind of RACIST?

88 posted on 02/23/2005 9:58:21 AM PST by martin gibson
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To: HMFIC
REMF!

Oh, c'mon. Give the guy a break. I'm sure it takes a lot of highly technical training to become proficient in weapons repair.

REMF does stand for Rear Echelon Mortar Fixer, right? :=)

89 posted on 02/23/2005 10:00:08 AM PST by Bob
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To: Bob

HAHA! Yeah, with his intellect, he'd fit right in with the Gun Grapes.

As we Engineer types would say to the Arty types, "Uhhh, pull string, gun go boom!"


90 posted on 02/23/2005 10:05:12 AM PST by HMFIC (Fourth Generation American INFIDEL and PROUD OF IT!)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

And M.S. must stand for Madeup Sh*t


91 posted on 02/23/2005 10:09:44 AM PST by JustaCowgirl (You have seen that life is fragile, and evil is real, and courage triumphs -- George W Bush)
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To: freespirited

Seems like this "Sangamon State" was a diploma mill for hippies.


92 posted on 02/23/2005 10:10:09 AM PST by Redbob
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To: Billthedrill
I bet you guys didn't know I'm 1/16 Mayan on my stepfather's side.

What fraction Mayan are you on his back?

93 posted on 02/23/2005 10:11:00 AM PST by talleyman (E=mc2 (before taxes))
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To: JustaCowgirl

You know what BS stands for, right?

Well, Ms means More of the Same, and PhD stands for Piled Higher and Deeper... or at least so I was told.

Me, I just have a Post Hole Digger.


94 posted on 02/23/2005 10:11:55 AM PST by NathanR (Mexico: So far from God; So close to the USA.)
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To: Real Cynic No More
I recall that to get a master's degree one could take a minimum no. of hours an write a thesis, or opt out of the thesis by taking additional coursework

what was the coursework and additional coursework and do you believe that it could be usefully accomplished in one year ?

95 posted on 02/23/2005 10:13:17 AM PST by oldbrowser (They're not the MSM.........they are the AGENDA MEDIA)
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To: freespirited

.Churchill's major, communications in a technological society....

A plastic degree by a plastic college issuing graduate degrees so the faculty could draw an increased salary.


96 posted on 02/23/2005 10:14:19 AM PST by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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To: freespirited
Let me guess. "Not sure it was required" is a euphemism for "wasn't required."

More likely, it's a euphemism for "It was required, but we can't find it now and we look like idiots."

97 posted on 02/23/2005 10:15:31 AM PST by BlessedBeGod (George W. Bush -- The Terror of the Terrorists)
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To: freespirited

Damn, if I had just gone to SSU instead of the University of Tennessee I could have had degrees in Microbiology, Zoology, Biology, Biochemistry, Animal Science, and Food Science. I lacked two Spanish courses of obtaining those degrees before I received my D.V.M. I guess SSU proves that the Northern colleges are far superior to the Southern colleges...


98 posted on 02/23/2005 10:17:45 AM PST by vetvetdoug (Just when one thinks life is strange, it gets stranger.)
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To: libstripper

Your #23 is a comprehensive, excellent post.


99 posted on 02/23/2005 10:21:20 AM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: Youngman442002
The only way churchhill will lose his job is when of if it effect's CUs pocketbook.

My only fear is that once is settled and he keeps his job, people will forget about it and CU will go on as normal. Enrollment will be up and he will be spewing his venom as a hero who stood up against the Bush machine.

When this story first broke he was low key but now that he has support he is loud and prancing like a cock.

Question: Why hasn't chief lies a lot speak out about his MA Thesis? Shouldn't he remember if he did a written or oral one? Wouldn't he remember if one was required?
100 posted on 02/23/2005 10:25:56 AM PST by Glacier Honey
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