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Children 'harmed' by vegan diets
The Beeb ^ | 21 February, 2005 | Michelle Roberts

Posted on 02/21/2005 2:06:27 PM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative

Putting children on strict vegan diets is "unethical" and could harm their development, a US scientist has argued.

Lindsay Allen, of the US Agricultural Research Service, attacked parents who insisted their children lived by the maxim "meat is murder".

Animal source foods have some nutrients not found anywhere else, she told a Washington science conference.

The Vegan Society dismissed the claims, saying its research showed vegans were often healthier than meat eaters.

'Development affected'

Professor Allen said: "There have been sufficient studies clearly showing that when women avoid all animal foods, their babies are born small, they grow very slowly and they are developmentally retarded, possibly permanently."

There's absolutely no question that it's unethical for parents to bring up their children as strict vegans
Professor Lindsay Allen, US Agricultural Research Service

"If you're talking about feeding young children, pregnant women and lactating women, I would go as far as to say it is unethical to withhold these foods [animal source foods] during that period of life."

She was especially critical of parents who imposed a vegan lifestyle on their children, denying them milk, cheese, butter and meat.

"There's absolutely no question that it's unethical for parents to bring up their children as strict vegans," she told the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS).

Missing nutrients

She said the damage to a child began while it was growing in the womb and continued once it had been born.

Research she carried out among African schoolchildren suggests as little as two spoonfuls of meat each day is enough to provide nutrients such as vitamin B12, zinc and iron.

The 544 children studied had been raised on diets chiefly consisting of starchy, low-nutrition corn and bean staples lacking these micronutrients.

Over two years, some of the children were given 2oz supplements of meat each day, equivalent to about two spoonfuls of mince.

Two other groups received either a cup of milk a day or an oil supplement containing the same amount of energy. The diet of a fourth group was left unaltered.

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The changes seen in the children given the meat, and to a lesser extent the milk or oil, were dramatic.

These children grew more and performed better on problem-solving and intelligence tests than any of the other children at the end of the two years.

They also became more active, talkative and playful at school.

Adding either meat or milk to the diets also almost completely eliminated the very high rates of vitamin B12 deficiency previously seen in the children.

No quick fixes

Professor Allen stressed that although the study was conducted in a poor African community, its message was highly relevant to people in developed countries.

She accepted that adults could avoid animal foods if they took the right supplements, but she said adding animal source food into the diet was a better way to tackle malnutrition worldwide than quick fixes with supplements in the form of pills.

"Where feasible, it would be much better to do it through the diet than by giving pills," she said.

"With pills it's very hard to be certain that the quantity of nutrition is right for everybody and it's hard to sustain."

In Africa, good results had been obtained from giving people a dried meat on a stick snack which proved both nutritious and appealing.

Professor Montague Demment, from the University of California at Davis, said more emphasis should be placed on animal source food to combat global malnutrition.

Vegan defence

However, the claims have been dismissed by the Vegan Society in the UK.

In a statement, it said increasing numbers of people were opting for a plant-based diet.

Kostana Azmi, the chief executive officer, said: "The vegan diet can provide you with more energy, nutrition, and is bursting with goodness."

She said plant sources were sometimes a safer, and cheaper source of nutrients.

For instance, animal sources of omega-3 oils, needed for the development of the brain and nervous system, were often contaminated with pollutants, such as mercury in fish.

In addition, the vegan diet was often a healthier alternative. She said dairy and meat products were rich in saturated fat, while plant based diets were low in it.

The society does recommend that vegans supplement their diet with vitamin B-12 pills.

The US Agricultural Research Service is part of the US Department of Agriculture.

 



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: diet; health; healthfoods; nutrition; science; supplements; vegan
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To: Dooderbutt

I'm simple minded - explain? :o)


161 posted on 02/22/2005 11:25:46 AM PST by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs
Majority (controlling interest) in the business world:whoever owns 51% of the stock
Majority in the political realm is: the one who won the election (even if only by 1000 votes)
Majority in weights and measures: 1lb.-loz vs. llb.-0.0oz.
Be thankful that dubya won. Forget by how much.
162 posted on 02/22/2005 11:31:31 AM PST by clearsight
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I have taken all my dogs off foods that contain beef. A couple of them have had skin rashes that cleared up when I switched to lamb and rice.

Oddly enough, I have a family susceptibility to diverticulitis (ugly stuff, look it up) that clears up on a non-beef diet. I have found some "organic" beef that I can eat, but only once in a while.

But dogs are omnivoires and can live without meat if they have to.


163 posted on 02/22/2005 11:33:36 AM PST by js1138
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To: js1138

Believe me, tho, I only do it cuz she is ALLERGIC as hell. Unfortunately she's so enviro-allergic we can't settle *that* down to look at supplementing food yet!

Thanks for the mention of diverticulitis; we're thinking my Mom has that (as well as other things, doctors trying to map it all out). I'd probably mention that to her.


164 posted on 02/22/2005 11:37:01 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: mrs tiggywinkle
Sorry, Rastafarians are known to smoke marijuana. I was thinking "pot brownies", trying to be a little funny.
165 posted on 02/22/2005 11:37:15 AM PST by Dooderbutt
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To: Dooderbutt
Oh! Slinking off embarrassed that I didn't get it before.

btw, your screen name cracks me up (no pun intended..well, kinda). :o)

166 posted on 02/22/2005 11:42:33 AM PST by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Most of the veggies I know, I admit, tho, are current or former druggies, and often truly depressed (cause or effect?) - and wearing Goth outfits. It could be a combination of all the above! ;-)

Probably the Goth outfits - that's a fad I truly do NOT understand. I guess the druggies might have been forced to become veggies since they probably don't have much money to buy meat. Just a guess ...

167 posted on 02/22/2005 11:43:25 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

We humans were born with canine teeth and a digestive system - complete with an exit - for a reason.

Freaks....


168 posted on 02/22/2005 11:47:16 AM PST by Don Simmons (Annoy a liberal: Work hard; Prosper; Be Happy.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Doctors never mention beef as a possible cause of problems. I took a hint from pet food labels. All the allergy formulas have one thing in common -- no beef.

I will probably catch hell for saying this without sciene to back me up, but my father, myself, and my son all get acne and worse after eating junk food burgers. And we love them so.


169 posted on 02/22/2005 11:55:54 AM PST by js1138
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To: js1138

It's not the fact that it's cow meat - it's all the processed crap the beef industry does to it!


170 posted on 02/22/2005 12:04:46 PM PST by Don Simmons (Annoy a liberal: Work hard; Prosper; Be Happy.)
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To: mcg1969
LOL! True Texas story:

My future wife was working as a waitress in a Mexican (one of the large chains) restaurant in Dallas and she was at that time still a strict vegetarian. She was serving some kind of meat burrito to a lady who asked her "Honey, would you mind takin' a taste of this to see if it's ok?". My wife told her she couldn't since she was a vegetarian and didn't eat meat.

The lady replied with a shocked look on her face: "Why darlin', you're lucky to be alive!"

She was actually quite healthy as a vegetarian but that was because she knew how to balance the mix of vegetables, pulses (beans), oils, etc. It's possible but not easy and it helps if you are (or live with) a good cook. She finally gave it up when she became pregnant with our first child and never looked back. Her biggest temptation when she was a veggie? Barbecued ribs.

171 posted on 02/22/2005 12:09:28 PM PST by katana
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To: Don Simmons

That's why I currently only eat beef that claims to be produced without hormones. Maverick Farms is the brand in my grocery store.

I don't claim this is science, just my experience.


172 posted on 02/22/2005 12:10:00 PM PST by js1138
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Yeah, and I can pick out meat eaters fairly easily as well:


173 posted on 02/22/2005 12:15:34 PM PST by ambrose (....)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I have been a vegetarian for most of my life, and I feed raw meat to my dog.


174 posted on 02/22/2005 12:17:06 PM PST by ambrose (....)
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
If God hadn't meant for us to eat meat, He wouldn't have made it taste so good!

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

175 posted on 02/22/2005 12:18:03 PM PST by mhking (Do not mess with dragons, for thou art crunchy & good with ketchup...)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Depends on the patron. We haven't quite worked out all the details yet. (For instance, we're not sure how well I'll be able to see patrons, since the curtains have to be thick enough for them not to see me.)


176 posted on 02/22/2005 12:24:38 PM PST by Xenalyte (Your mother sells hot dogs.)
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To: mhking
I like that saying, but (I think) it's better expressed in front of PETA types when you say, "If God hadn't meant for us to eat meat, He wouldn't have made it meat flavored!"

(Say it and watch 'em cringe ;'}
177 posted on 02/22/2005 12:33:47 PM PST by rockrr (Revote or Revolt! It's up to you Washington!)
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To: wvobiwan

My question is: did she (your ex) look like a stick? I simply cannot understand the logic of putting at risk the life of child or impose a diet on a pet, knowing that they are, in the case of child or in the case of the pet, unable or unknowlegable in the ramifications of what there being forced to consume.


178 posted on 02/22/2005 12:38:48 PM PST by goldwater64 (Conservative, Pro-Life, Republican & Catholic (Kerry Hater))
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To: ambrose

One word: MODERATION. The movie "Super Size Me" by Mr Spurlock was not an exercise in documentary accuracy, but one of deliberate excess. Take a very close look at the DVD and perhaps the truth will become apparent.


179 posted on 02/22/2005 12:43:19 PM PST by goldwater64 (Conservative, Pro-Life, Republican & Catholic (Kerry Hater))
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To: mcg1969
But bacon tastes good. Pork chops taste good


180 posted on 02/22/2005 12:43:50 PM PST by WilliamWallace1999
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