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1 posted on 02/20/2005 10:56:59 AM PST by occutegirl
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To: FITZ

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2 posted on 02/20/2005 10:58:39 AM PST by investigateworld (Another California Refugee in Oregon)
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To: occutegirl

Significantly, about half the growth in immigrant employment was from illegal immigration.


Our analysis also shows little evidence that immigrants only take jobs Americans don't want. It is true that immigration has its biggest impact at the bottom end of the labor market in relatively low-paying occupations done by less-educated workers.

Admission rarely seen in paper, and almost always ignored by MSM.


3 posted on 02/20/2005 11:00:02 AM PST by deepFR
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To: occutegirl

I'm surprised the Red Star would report this.

Guess their subscriptions are desperately low.


4 posted on 02/20/2005 11:01:10 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: occutegirl

Local native born Americans could get off their posteriors and apply for these jobs, something that is not happening (where I live, at least). In fact, they finally closed down a bricklayer apprentice program because nobody applied - despite the fact that a bricklayer can make way more than minimum wage, and nothing was required except being a citizen, attending the program and learning how to lay brick

Now we have a bunch of low-lifes hanging around complaining that Mexicans are taking "their jobs." Give me a break. Maybe they should stop cruising the projects taking their "baby mama's" welfare check or quit brewing meth out in the swamps, and actually compete with the immigrants. Life in the US is competitive, and they're not in the game.


6 posted on 02/20/2005 11:05:00 AM PST by livius
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To: occutegirl
Significantly, about half the growth in immigrant employment was from illegal immigration.

How do they know this? If true this wouldn't suprise me, but what employer in their right mind would disclose that they have illegal aliens on the payroll? This reporter's "research" seems suspect.

10 posted on 02/20/2005 11:29:35 AM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: occutegirl
The argument this article proves but no one dares to mention is the immigration/employment impact on non-incarcerated black male youths. Illegal criminal Mexicans take jobs that displace young blacks. Will blacks work for $5.00 an hour? Of course not, few Americans would!

But, the constant supply of illegal sub-minimum wage workers breaking into our country keeps market rates down. Back in the late '90s, fast food restaurants were advertising $10.00/hour for unskilled labor. We'll never get that high again as long as the market keeps supplying criminals at $5.00/hour. The fact that black leaders do not recognize this is, in itself criminal and proves that they are simply the overseers or black field hands and work for the labor union masters.

Once slave labor disappears, the wages paid to entry level blacks will rise and suck them into the workforce.

16 posted on 02/20/2005 11:43:30 AM PST by Tacis ("John ("What SF-180?") Kerry - Still Shilling For Those Who Would Harm America!")
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Free Trade, out-sourcing, open borders. We are screwed, big time. Someday soon Mr and Mrs Joe Six pack is going to realize how badly the neo cons in the GOP screwed them and there will be hell to pay. I am becoming more and more convince that neo-cns are liberals Trojan horse.
17 posted on 02/20/2005 11:43:56 AM PST by jpsb
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Sounds like some serious thought is finally being given to the ills of illegal immigration, and more reporting is being done.


21 posted on 02/20/2005 11:55:39 AM PST by HiJinx (www .ProudPatriots.org ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~ February 15 - March 4, 2005)
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To: occutegirl

Very informative article. Thanks for posting.


32 posted on 02/20/2005 12:18:14 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: occutegirl

Same old sell out of working class Americans.... you know... the same guys who are in the front lines in Iraq, Afghanistan and everywhere our armed forces serve. The commies have a point when they talk about workers being busted down by the ruling elite, then asked to serve in the armies of the elites. Which at this point are sent out on worthy missions but who knows what the future might bring?


34 posted on 02/20/2005 12:20:56 PM PST by dennisw (Seeing as how this is a .44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world .........)
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Northeastern University published the same last summer. The MSM reported it but, I far as I saw, limited the reporting to what the labor glut has done to hinder teenagers from getting summer jobs.

Northeastern U. labor studies 2000 - 2004

http://www.nupr.neu.edu/7-04/immigration_july04.shtml

The report suggested that " Given the controversial but policy relevant findings on the immigrant role in U.S. labor markets over the past four years and its adverse consequences for younger and less skilled workers, the study calls for a sustained and high level national policy debate over the future role of immigration in U.S. labor markets. This topic should also be a key issue in the Presidential debates this fall."

Except for tons of emails to a presidential debate moderator not a word out of the Republicrats' campaign.

BTW, the usual MO of the "cheap" labor crowd is to scream Racist! at CIS, and Northeastern University, I guess.

38 posted on 02/20/2005 12:28:08 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (MSM Fraudcasters are skid marks on journalism's clean shorts.)
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To: occutegirl

In the end, it comes down to this:

Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, "Improper Entry by Alien," any citizen of any country other than the United States who:

Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or

Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or

Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact;
has committed a federal crime.

Violations are punishable by criminal fines and imprisonment for up to six months. Repeat offenses can bring up to two years in prison. Additional civil fines may be imposed at the discretion of immigration judges, but civil fines do not negate the criminal sanctions or nature of the offense.


40 posted on 02/20/2005 12:30:01 PM PST by deepFR
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To: occutegirl

What the article does not state is that many scientists and engineers are without a job as soon as they graduate, simply because high-paying jobs are leaving the country in large numbers. These new graduates are unemployed yet they do not appear in unemployment statistics.

It is suggested these days to start your own business. Are we becoming a country of cottage industries as in pre-industrial revolution days? That the larger companies (Exxon, Microsoft, etc.) are not hiring but instead outsource will do us in as a nation. But, then again, who the hell cares when one can make a faster buck overseas even if it is at the country's expense. I am safely retired, but my heart is saddened when I think of the next generation.

Give me back the cold-war days when there was plenty of work and little illegal immigration. I prefer the fear of an atomic attack over that of the knowledge that my college degree in engineering is not worth the paper it is written on.


41 posted on 02/20/2005 12:30:31 PM PST by auburntiger
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To: occutegirl

Stories relating to border control that make you go HMMMM?

Implies that he "blew his brains out - while driving". While not impossible, certainly weird that he would not have pulled off the road to attend to this business, or not even have been on the way to said meeting.

The Federal Government's top Immigration Official in Arizona found dead in his car had committed suicide.

Thomas Derouchey's autopsy results were released Wednesday. He was found dead Tuesday after his car ran off Interstate 10 near Marana. He had a gunshot wound to the head.

Derouchey was on his way to Tucson news conference announcing a new Federal Border Control Initiative.

I.C.E. released a statement Tuesday afternoon, "It is with great sadness that the ICE family announces the death of special agent Thomas DeRouchey, interim special agent in charge of ICE's Phoenix office. Our prayers and condolences go out to his family and friends in time of this great loss."


44 posted on 02/20/2005 12:40:12 PM PST by deepFR
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To: occutegirl

Somebody needs to send this article to the president.


53 posted on 02/20/2005 2:26:59 PM PST by sweetliberty ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: occutegirl

It's also a little known fact that chinese, asians, and middle easterners are taking doctor and engineer positions away from americans and driving those wages down too.


76 posted on 02/20/2005 5:09:12 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: occutegirl

If they can find a way to do it, this will also occur to the tech sector, leaving the 2nd shipload ( Douglas Adams reference ) to be running things.


84 posted on 02/20/2005 8:12:20 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: occutegirl; bayourod

Hey Bayourod...here's an article you can sink your teeth into.


This article refers to all the American "losers" as you called them, who have to compete with illegals for jobs!


93 posted on 02/21/2005 7:20:39 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: occutegirl

bump for later followup


96 posted on 02/21/2005 5:01:30 PM PST by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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