Posted on 02/20/2005 10:56:58 AM PST by occutegirl
The recovery from the recession of 2001 is often described as "jobless." But this is not entirely correct. My analysis of Census Bureau data shows that between March 2000 and 2004, the number of adults working in United States actually increased.
What's interesting, however, is that all the net growth in jobs went to immigrant workers. In fact, while the number of unemployed adult native-born workers increased by 2.3 million over this time, the number of employed immigrants rose by 2.3 million.
Significantly, about half the growth in immigrant employment was from illegal immigration. --------------- Our analysis also shows little evidence that immigrants only take jobs Americans don't want. It is true that immigration has its biggest impact at the bottom end of the labor market in relatively low-paying occupations done by less-educated workers.
Nonetheless such occupations still employ tens of millions of native-born workers
(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...
What the article does not state is that many scientists and engineers are without a job as soon as they graduate, simply because high-paying jobs are leaving the country in large numbers. These new graduates are unemployed yet they do not appear in unemployment statistics.
It is suggested these days to start your own business. Are we becoming a country of cottage industries as in pre-industrial revolution days? That the larger companies (Exxon, Microsoft, etc.) are not hiring but instead outsource will do us in as a nation. But, then again, who the hell cares when one can make a faster buck overseas even if it is at the country's expense. I am safely retired, but my heart is saddened when I think of the next generation.
Give me back the cold-war days when there was plenty of work and little illegal immigration. I prefer the fear of an atomic attack over that of the knowledge that my college degree in engineering is not worth the paper it is written on.
They're just here murdering the sigle moms Americans don't want to kill.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1345468/posts
BTW, I agree with you - illegals do depress wages, etc., but the question is how to deal with the problem. A lot of people seem to think that if they just get angry enough, all of the illegal immigrants (who are not only Mexicans - there are also many, many illegal Chinese and other immigrants) will simply leave.
I would like to see a structured program that would deal with the group that is already here (regardless of their country of origin), but at the same time, since the great majority are Mexicans, that would deal with the problem of Mexico. Mexico does not have to have a functioning economy because it can always dump its workers here. There is no penalty to Mexico: we don't make Mexico pay any of the costs or take any responsibility.
Stories relating to border control that make you go HMMMM?
Implies that he "blew his brains out - while driving". While not impossible, certainly weird that he would not have pulled off the road to attend to this business, or not even have been on the way to said meeting.
The Federal Government's top Immigration Official in Arizona found dead in his car had committed suicide.
Thomas Derouchey's autopsy results were released Wednesday. He was found dead Tuesday after his car ran off Interstate 10 near Marana. He had a gunshot wound to the head.
Derouchey was on his way to Tucson news conference announcing a new Federal Border Control Initiative.
I.C.E. released a statement Tuesday afternoon, "It is with great sadness that the ICE family announces the death of special agent Thomas DeRouchey, interim special agent in charge of ICE's Phoenix office. Our prayers and condolences go out to his family and friends in time of this great loss."
And every time I post data that shows illegals are ruining this country,
the Walmart FReepers have no rebuttal!
All they do is post personal insults!
duhhhhhh
Semper Fi,
Kelly
Remember Iwo Jima!
Most of the folks who benefitted in New York, btw, were Irish illegals, who had come there in droves because Ireland had a terrible economy at that point. They were literate and skilled and they actually were taking well-paid jobs from Americans.
"Over 3 million individuals, including 2.3 million Mexicans, were granted legal permanent resident status under
IRCA."
http://www.frbatlanta.org/filelegacydocs/wp0119.pdf#search='1986%20IRCA%20and%20mexican%20illegal%20immigrants'
Do Amnesty Programs Encourage Illegal Immigration? Evidence from IRCA
At the time of its passage in 1986, the Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA)
marked the biggest change in U.S. immigration policy in decades. IRCA granted amnesty to
undocumented immigrants who met specific provisions, required employers to verify workers’
eligibility to work legally, and increased funding for the Border Patrol. Over 3 million
individuals, including 2.3 million Mexicans, were granted legal permanent resident status under
IRCA. Opponents of the law claimed that it would encourage future illegal immigration,
notwithstanding tougher border enforcement, because it set a precedent for granting amnesty.
The bottom line is, the mexicaan govt. NEEDS to reform. Period. Or nothing will ever change for the poor mestizos, or the American taxpayer.
Personally, I think the welfare culture is behind it. Welfare was knocked back a bit, but only a bit; it is still available to all too many people, legal and illegal, to encourage a useless, parasitical life. Of course, go into the projects or those neighborhoods, and you see Escalades, plasma TV's, etc. Most of these things are bought with money come by through these gangs.
When my police officer family member gets called to one of these places, she says the cops all stand around gaping at these things that they (the cops) could never dream of affording on their own salaries. Yet the thugs - of all colors and ethnic backgrounds - don't seem to have any trouble getting them, and of course mommy-on-welfare never seems to wonder where her kid got money for an Escalade.
That's interesting. Because if you look at a graph of the size of SSA's Earnings Suspense File (ESF) there was a spike in the 1980s.
The downside of the spike was after the amnesty. I always assumed that the workers became legal and got valid SSNs and the SSA was able to purge the phony (unmatched to master files) SSNs.
CONGRESSIONAL RESPONSE REPORT, Social Security Administration Benefits Related to Unauthorized Work A-03-03-23053, page 20.
The graph on page 20 is showing the explosive growth of the Earnings Suspense File (ESF) that began in the late 1990s. The spike is almost straight up by 2000. It's still going up, I bet.
But hey! Never mind that the employers' names (tens of thousands of employers) are recorded along with the almost ten million phony SSNs.
Some insist that we need a shiny new law for business and government to ignore.
Thanks, I think it is one of the better articles I have seen on the subject.
wow..do you have an article about that?
Even I am not naive enough to think people are going to skip down to the INS office and register for the fun of it! They'll do it because it will make their lives easier: for one thing, they will be able to go back to Mexico and reenter the US legally when the season for whatever labor they do comes around. Most of the Mexican workers around here like to go back to Mexico for several months of the year.
Also, for years I worked across from a building in New York that was full of Chinese sweatshops. We always knew when the INS was around, because suddenly the windows would burst open and Chinese (or Asians of some kind) would start streaming out, running down the fire escapes, etc. Those who got caught were sent to the INS camps, which are very unpleasant places. I don't think anybody would like to risk this if there is an alternative.
As for their being serfs, that was the argument that the Dems used to destroy the guest worker program in the 1970s (because the Dems wanted to promote the Farm Workers' Union). However, if they receive legal wages, legal workplace safety protection, and can leave the job if they don't receive these things, I think they're better off than they are now.
Somebody needs to send this article to the president.
Riiiight... round file cabinet.
I think that's the whole point of the guest worker program, which would mean that employers would have to pay these things for all employees.
Incidentally, many of the employers do pay these things, because most illegals do not walk in and say, hi, I'm illegal, wanna hire me? They have papers. All forged, but papers nonetheless, which gives the employer a cover (even though he may suspect that they're illegal). I'm not talking about day-laborers, but about people who have steady jobs in packing plants, for example, or other work of that type. However, illegals don't dare quit or ask for a raise or annoy their employer in any way because they may get caught, which means that the employer can get away with paying them as little as legally possible, even though he may be paying all the employment taxes, etc.
I think a guest worker program would pressure employers to increase wages because they wouldn't have such a dependable supply of people who didn't dare leave or complain.
Yeah, I know, but one can hope.
You're so positive :-)
Unfortunately, the Feds are a bunch of asses and won't do a thing until you and I HELP them by reporting as many crooks and felons as we find and refuse doing business with felons that hire illegals.
I would take that a step furthur to require that the ones who are currently here illegally are either disqualified, or have to return to their home country and go to the end of the line. And whatever happened to checking immigrants for disease...you know, public safety and all that?
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