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To: occutegirl

Local native born Americans could get off their posteriors and apply for these jobs, something that is not happening (where I live, at least). In fact, they finally closed down a bricklayer apprentice program because nobody applied - despite the fact that a bricklayer can make way more than minimum wage, and nothing was required except being a citizen, attending the program and learning how to lay brick

Now we have a bunch of low-lifes hanging around complaining that Mexicans are taking "their jobs." Give me a break. Maybe they should stop cruising the projects taking their "baby mama's" welfare check or quit brewing meth out in the swamps, and actually compete with the immigrants. Life in the US is competitive, and they're not in the game.


6 posted on 02/20/2005 11:05:00 AM PST by livius
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To: livius

Only about 5 percent of lawyers and 6 percent of journalists are immigrants, compared with one-fourth of construction laborers and one-third of janitors. When more educated and affluent people say, "Immigrants only take jobs Americans don't want," what they really mean is that immigrants only take jobs they don't want.

When businesses say, "Immigrants only take jobs Americans don't want," what they really mean is that given what they would like to pay, and how they would like to treat their workers, they cannot find enough Americans. Therefore, employers want the government to continually increase the supply of labor by nonenforcement of immigration laws and keeping legal immigration levels as high as possible. This in turn holds down wages and benefits, especially at the bottom end of the labor market, as well as allowing them to put off investment that would increase productivity.

The idea that America is desperately short of less-skilled workers is absurd on its face. There are 70 million native-born Americans and legal immigrants already here between the ages of 18 and 64 who have only a high school education. This is an enormous pool of labor that if properly paid and treated could satisfy all the labor demands of American employers.


8 posted on 02/20/2005 11:14:15 AM PST by occutegirl ("She is too fond of books, and it has turned her brain." ~ Louisa May Alcott)
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To: livius

Local native born Americans could get off their posteriors and apply for these jobs, something that is not happening (where I live, at least). In fact, they finally closed down a bricklayer apprentice program because nobody applied - despite the fact that a bricklayer can make way more than minimum wage, and nothing was required except being a citizen, attending the program and learning how to lay brick

I understand what you are saying but most of these guys that won't take the apprentice program know what they are saying also. You will take the program and work for us at about half of what the job is worth. Get in line with the illegals and plan on having a couple of roomates so you can make ends meet. Welcome to the third world buddy!!!


11 posted on 02/20/2005 11:31:42 AM PST by Sterco
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To: livius

If genuine labor shortages exist, then laws should be modified to address as they occur and handled in a process that matches demand legally; the fact that it continues unaddressed for so long indicates that their is no desire to find legal remedy because it would mean that employers would have to treat these workers and pay these workers like American citizens which is what they are trying so hard to do. Once this group of illegals are legalized, employers will have no need for them and start hiring the illegal ones again.


18 posted on 02/20/2005 11:44:38 AM PST by deepFR
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