Posted on 02/18/2005 5:36:56 PM PST by average american student
The United States and six members of the Organization of American States have signed new agreements on trade and the environment.
The agreements are aimed at strengthening environmental protection and creating a Secretariat for Environmental Matters to help implement the environmental provisions of the Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA).
The accords were signed in Washington D.C. Friday by senior representatives of the governments of Costa Rica, the Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua and the United States.
Oh yes, that had lots of influence on Mexico (not).
You can be sure that Chavez intends to expand beyond his current borders, it is just a matter of time.
He, Lula, and Castro have designs on the entire hemisphere. Frankly, I think Fox is in on the game too with Chinese support. That doesn't mean that strengthening those economies on a blanket basis is a good idea. Witness China and their support of North Korean nukes.
Trade should be managed nation to nation on an individual basis, not by surrendering sovereignty to an international Secretariat unaccountable to anyone. CAFTA is bad for America but great for empowering corporate corruption.
That is the only chance we have!
I totally agree. It makes no sense for us to let the RINO'S have OUR party. They are the ones who moved to the left, and THEY should have to build a new party, not us. It will take decades to build a new party and that means we would lose ground in those decades. By then we would be a socialist nation.
Maybe these people are worried about the historical domination of the United States by these countries. They are so much larger and more powerful than we are and will crush our economy ruthlessly. Signing this agreement puts us in a helpless position of servitude and will cost us our last remaining shred of independence. Expect tens of millions to lose their jobs, crop failures, civil war, nuclear armegeddon and a mass pandemic of erectile dysfunction. Time to retreat to caves in the Rockies!! Dom't forget the plastic sheets and duct tape!
Some would equate their acquiesence to treason. Let's hope it's ignorance. The solution it seems is the ballot box..If not now when ?
You are a riot but surrending national sovereignty to unelected "world bodies" in an "agreement" is foolishness. This one "agreement" is just part and parcel of an erosion of the Republic. The power for a "world body politic" to tax American business will follow.
As a matter of fact, it read it yesterday.
And did you read the section where it said that signees must promote sustainable development?
Do you know what sustainable development is?
Did you read where the signees must ensure the ILO is recognized by their laws? This implies that country laws must be changed to come in accordance to the ILO.
The Parties reaffirm their obligations as members of the International Labor Organization (ILO) and their commitments under the ILO Declaration on Fundamental Principles and Rights at Work and its Follow-Up (1998) (ILO Declaration).1 Each Party shall strive to ensure that
such labor principles and the internationally recognized labor rights set forth in Article 16.8 are
recognized and protected by its law.
I actually know someone that owns three Toyotas, wears a pair of Italian shoes and works for a firm headquartered in Germany. Can you believe that? Conquered by the old Axis!
The Italian shoes are wearing out. I'll have to go buy another pair.
I believe the only thing left for CAFTA's passage is an Up or Down simple majority vote in the Senate, which of course will come down as another Beltway Shell Game.
Just like NAFTA (and most all-unpopular legislation) the leaders of both parties will get together, poll the Senators and allow the Senators facing reelection where a "Yes" vote on CAFTA could cost them their job to vote "No" and pass this Treason by the slimmest of margins.
Requiring a 2/3rds majority on any legislation that undermines America’s Sovereignty and usurps our Constitution is just so passé today. Why it is just not right to force our so-called leaders to stick their necks out for something Unconstitutional, something that most Americans are viscerally against.
When you are screwed. RINO own lock stock and barrel the GOP.
What exports? Food? Ok maybe, but other then food we to not produce anything they would want.
As it's used in CAFTA, it's a goal and nothing more. It's not a code word for adopting Agenda 21 or anyone else's framework for maintaining sustainable development.
At the same time, I believe the NAFTA and CAFTA agreements are very beneficial to the interests of this country and its individual citizens. Would we really prefer that these Central American countries be left to make their trade arrangements with the EU and/or with China and Asia, rather than the USA? Of course not. This treaty allows individuals to do the business they want to do with these countries, with less interference from the governments involved. Are we really to believe this is a bad thing? Again, of course not.
I'd sure like to know where these people think they have the Constitutional authority to make deals like this."
Here's your answer:
"He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur" - Article 2, Section 2
But, the "two thirds of the senators present" are supposed to have the support of the people they represent, which I don't believe they have.
This is government without the consent of the governed and when the time comes, the government will be ready to use force to enforce it.
After all, anyone who doesn't like it will be labeled a right wing militant.
That's an agreement to strive to do what each of the countries has already agreed to do in the past. It doesn't change any law.
Yesterday's news had an article about China making trade deals with the CAFTA countries, right about the time the president signed the agreemnt. The article said that the white house welcomes China in our hemisphere and says trade deals with CAFTA countries and China are part of the trade promotion efforts of the USTR.
China says they are mostly interested in tourism in the CAFTA countries.
Because CAFTA lowers migration and entry barriers to this country, do you suppose the "tourism" china is interested in may have another purpose?
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