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US, OAS Members Sign New Environmental Agreements
VOA News ^ | February 18, 2005 | VOA News

Posted on 02/18/2005 5:36:56 PM PST by average american student

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Quietly, the 'conservative' 'America First' Bush Administration has just signed on to another layer of government, one unaccountable to US voters, which hopes to move the America's into the next European Union, only quicker this time.
1 posted on 02/18/2005 5:36:56 PM PST by average american student
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To: average american student
I'd sure like to know where these people think they have the Constitutional authority to make deals like this.

< /sarcasm>

2 posted on 02/18/2005 5:42:47 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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"He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur" - Article 2, Section 2


3 posted on 02/18/2005 5:46:57 PM PST by JohnBDay
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The agreements are aimed at strengthening environmental protection and creating a Secretariat for Environmental Matters to help implement the environmental provisions of the Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA).

I wonder what the bots are going to say about this latest installment of treason? He's a globalist just like his daddy. He's betrayed ever person in America. Unbelievable!!!

4 posted on 02/18/2005 5:47:51 PM PST by NRA2BFree (NO AMNESTY, NO UN, NO PC, NO BS, NO MSM, NO WHINY @SS LIBERAL BEDWETTERS, NO LIBERAL JUDGES! YEAH!)
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"He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur" - Article 2, Section 2

This isn't a treaty; it's a "trade agreement." Trade agreements are (supposedly) not treaties. Thus NAFTA did not requrire the 2/3 vote of senators present, which is bogus on the face of it.

5 posted on 02/18/2005 5:51:09 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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"creating a Secretariat for Environmental Matters "

Was it you the other day that put up a nice graph/display about, What is a Secretariat?


6 posted on 02/18/2005 5:51:18 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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To: average american student

I think it's a good idea, do you want the Chicoms and Castro to have any more power in the area than they already have ?


7 posted on 02/18/2005 5:52:57 PM PST by John Lenin (If I was a mod there would be no trolls)
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The long range plan is to divide the world into administrative regions under a global government.

We are over halfway there. NAFTA, CAFTA, EU, etc...

So long Constitutional Republic, hello global soviet union.


8 posted on 02/18/2005 5:54:16 PM PST by OK
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China's Huge Trade Surplus with US Erodes Free Trade Support
CAFTA: The Expanding Trade Deficit with China by Another Name?
9 posted on 02/18/2005 5:54:56 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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FYI

Why is congress so willing to give up it's powers? It's either to these "trade agreements" or to some judge and they just seem to say, okey doke!


10 posted on 02/18/2005 5:55:00 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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Was it you the other day that put up a nice graph/display about, What is a Secretariat?

Nope. I assume it's similar to a UN "Conference of the Parties" where the puke traitors who negotiated the beast get to administer it. It makes a handy place for corrupt backroom deals favoring multinational investors.

11 posted on 02/18/2005 5:55:08 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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and creating a Secretariat for Environmental Matters

That has a nice 1960's Soviet Union feel to it.

12 posted on 02/18/2005 5:56:56 PM PST by skip_intro
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I am not all that familier with free trade treaties and all of its implications but I fear that you may right. Is there no other possibility, that it may work out OK? Globalization VS Globalism? Oh hell who am I kidding Im just praying for a silver lining.


13 posted on 02/18/2005 5:57:34 PM PST by Archon of the East (The Constitution is a terrible thing to waste)
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FYI

"and creating a Secretariat for Environmental Matters"


14 posted on 02/18/2005 5:59:28 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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To: average american student

I'm calling my good for nothing senators hoping against hope for a NO vote on CAFTA.


15 posted on 02/18/2005 6:00:22 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("It's easy to hide behind a microphone, son" - Coach Mike Ditka)
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It's all about making money and Pax Americana. What do we have to fear from globalization, we are the melting pot world? Make sure you've got a gun if this globalization goes soviet on us though.


16 posted on 02/18/2005 6:01:42 PM PST by bahblahbah
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To: OK
So long Constitutional Republic, hello global soviet union

Welcome to the Brave New World. Will it implode whe the sheeple figure it out ?
17 posted on 02/18/2005 6:02:45 PM PST by John Lenin (If I was a mod there would be no trolls)
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To: Carry_Okie
This isn't a treaty; it's a "trade agreement." Trade agreements are (supposedly) not treaties. Thus NAFTA did not requrire the 2/3 vote of senators present, which is bogus on the face of it.

It seems your're right. NAFTA only passed 61-38. Thanks for informing me to this. I support free trade, but not through ignoring the Constitution.

18 posted on 02/18/2005 6:03:53 PM PST by JohnBDay
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"He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur"

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
19 posted on 02/18/2005 6:05:40 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: OK
The long range plan is to divide the world into administrative regions under a global government.

Exactly!

We are over halfway there. NAFTA, CAFTA, EU, etc...

Has the FTAA been signed yet?

So long Constitutional Republic, hello global soviet union.

A failed soviet union, at that. How did so few of our elected 'officials', along with a few judges manage to take America away from us? It beats all I've ever seen.

20 posted on 02/18/2005 6:06:16 PM PST by NRA2BFree (NO AMNESTY, NO UN, NO PC, NO BS, NO MSM, NO WHINY @SS LIBERAL BEDWETTERS, NO LIBERAL JUDGES! YEAH!)
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