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Experts: New Sub Can Tap Undersea Cables
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Posted on 02/18/2005 5:00:53 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Experts: New Sub Can Tap Undersea Cables

* USS Jimmy Carter Will Be Based In Washington State

Feb 18, 2005 4:55 pm US/Eastern WASHINGTON (AP) The USS Jimmy Carter, set to join the nation’s submarine fleet on Saturday, will have some special capabilities, intelligence experts say: It will be able to tap undersea cables and eavesdrop on the communications passing through them.

The Navy does not acknowledge the $3.2 billion submarine, the third and last of the Seawolf class of attack subs, has this capability.

“That’s going to be classified in nature,” said Kevin Sykes, a Navy spokesman. “You’re not going to get anybody to talk to you about that.”

But intelligence community watchdogs have little doubt: The previous submarine that performed the mission, the USS Parche, was retired last fall. That would only happen if a new one was on the way.

Like the Parche, the Carter was extensively modified from its basic design, given a $923 million hull extension that allows it to house technicians and gear to perform the cable-tapping and other secret missions, experts say. The Carter’s hull, at 453 feet, is 100 feet longer than the other two subs in the Seawolf class.

“The submarine is basically going to have as its major function intelligence gathering,” said James Bamford, author of two books on the National Security Agency.

Navy public information touts some of the Carter’s special abilities: In the extended hull section, the boat can provide berths for up to 50 special operations troops, like Navy SEALs. It has an “ocean interface” that serves as a sort of hangar bay for smaller vehicles and drones to launch and return.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: espionage; humor; submarine; themostcorruptstate; usn; ussjimmycarter; ussparche
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1 posted on 02/18/2005 5:00:54 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Well now the world knows...........


2 posted on 02/18/2005 5:02:01 PM PST by rudyudy
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To: rudyudy

yea.....but it was leaked a long time ago...


3 posted on 02/18/2005 5:05:56 PM PST by Sub-Driver (Unelect All NJ Politicians....)
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To: rudyudy

Tapping of undersea cables was never that big of a secret....

Speaking from the pervue of a 30+ year Telecom Engineer....

NeverGore :^)


4 posted on 02/18/2005 5:06:01 PM PST by nevergore (“It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.”)
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To: Sub-Driver
I don't understand why it is that we are so open nowadays about capabilities of our newest boats. Not so long ago this was verboten.

When/Who changed the Navy's policy of "We do not discuss the operations of U.S. submarines".
5 posted on 02/18/2005 5:07:29 PM PST by rottndog ("Dive, Dive, Dive")
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To: Sub-Driver

Read Blind Man's Bluff and read all about the cable tapping by the US Subs. One sub would actually leave California, go around Tierra Del Fuego (the extreme tip of South America for you readers from Rio Lindo)and go north around Scandinavia to Murmansk to do their thing.


6 posted on 02/18/2005 5:08:20 PM PST by montomike (Gay means happy and carefree...not an abomination against nature's check valve.)
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To: rottndog
When/Who changed the Navy's policy of "We do not discuss the operations of U.S. submarines".

It is sad. We need the secrecy like in the cold war. Where everything but sub's existance was top secret.

7 posted on 02/18/2005 5:11:57 PM PST by Paul_Denton (The UN is UN-American! Get the UN out of the US and US out of the UN!)
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To: Sub-Driver
There has been a great deal of mocking on threads concerning the USS Jimmy Carter. I'd like to remind people that this submarine is a state-of-the-art war fighting machine and will be manned by a crew of brave sailors who will serve their boat with pride.

And Carter, lest we forget, was a naval officer and a submariner who served honorably. Say what one may about his disastrous presidency, this honor cannot be taken away from him.

8 posted on 02/18/2005 5:12:09 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Sub-Driver

An intelligence gathering submarine named after the the dumbest SOB to ever occupy the Oval Office.

And before the Carter-apologists start talking about how 'smart 'Carter was, that alleged 'smart' guy managed to lose Iran, Afghanistan and Panama on his watch, nearly abandoned U.S. military superiority to the Soviets, and presided over the biggest economic disaster since the Great Depression.


9 posted on 02/18/2005 5:12:24 PM PST by Mad Mammoth
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To: Sub-Driver

And WHO THE F*** would name a ship after one of the WORST presidents in history!?


10 posted on 02/18/2005 5:12:56 PM PST by Paul_Denton (The UN is UN-American! Get the UN out of the US and US out of the UN!)
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To: montomike
They also tapped cables on the Sov's east coast.

This is nothing new. Might be a new ship doing it, but the capability's been around a long time and books have been written about it.

11 posted on 02/18/2005 5:13:27 PM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: Drew68
And Carter, lest we forget, was a naval officer

Yeah, blah-blah-blah. So was the Walker family.
12 posted on 02/18/2005 5:13:43 PM PST by Mad Mammoth
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To: rottndog
When/Who changed the Navy's policy of "We do not discuss the operations of U.S. submarines".

The navy said nothing. From the article:

It was a writer who disclosed these items of interest:

He may be correct, he may be full of it.

13 posted on 02/18/2005 5:15:59 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Mad Mammoth
Yeah, blah-blah-blah. So was the Walker family.

I take offense mainly at making dispairrging remarks about the ship itself. Us sailors tend to take these attacks personally. Many of us who have served on a navy vessel keep that boat in a special place in our hearts.

14 posted on 02/18/2005 5:18:48 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68
There has been a great deal of mocking on threads concerning the USS Jimmy Carter.

Maybe it should be renamed the USS JC. Then one could attach whatever secular or religious connotation is desired.

15 posted on 02/18/2005 5:19:17 PM PST by steve86
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To: Drew68
dispairrging WTF was that?!? I mean disparaging
16 posted on 02/18/2005 5:20:02 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Sub-Driver
yea.....but it was leaked a long time ago...

Talking about leaks in a discussion of submarines could be considered in poor taste.

17 posted on 02/18/2005 5:22:21 PM PST by omni-scientist
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To: BearWash
Maybe it should be renamed the USS JC. Then one could attach whatever secular or religious connotation is desired.

Yeah! I serve on the USS José Cuervo! We know how to party on liberty in Australia!

18 posted on 02/18/2005 5:23:10 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Sub-Driver

I knew Carter was tapping someone's phone........


19 posted on 02/18/2005 5:25:01 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Sub-Driver
After working for many years on classified stuff for the military, my blood ran cold at seeing this kind of classified info being bandied about!

I am surprised this isn't ZOTTED already!

All reporters should be briefed and debriefed on the policy. This is not a game, folks! We have a lot of enemies in the World!

20 posted on 02/18/2005 5:25:17 PM PST by Sen Jack S. Fogbound (Liberalism.........Bah Humbug)
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