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To: Sub-Driver
There has been a great deal of mocking on threads concerning the USS Jimmy Carter. I'd like to remind people that this submarine is a state-of-the-art war fighting machine and will be manned by a crew of brave sailors who will serve their boat with pride.

And Carter, lest we forget, was a naval officer and a submariner who served honorably. Say what one may about his disastrous presidency, this honor cannot be taken away from him.

8 posted on 02/18/2005 5:12:09 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68
And Carter, lest we forget, was a naval officer

Yeah, blah-blah-blah. So was the Walker family.
12 posted on 02/18/2005 5:13:43 PM PST by Mad Mammoth
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To: Drew68
There has been a great deal of mocking on threads concerning the USS Jimmy Carter.

Maybe it should be renamed the USS JC. Then one could attach whatever secular or religious connotation is desired.

15 posted on 02/18/2005 5:19:17 PM PST by steve86
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To: Drew68
Say what one may about his disastrous presidency, this honor cannot be taken away from him.

Yeah? Well John Glenn used to be an honorable American hero until he sold his reputation and honor. For the price of one last rocket ride, he obstructed the Senate investigation into Communist Chinese campaign contributions to the Democrat party. That stunt lost him his hero status. He is just another disgracefully sleazy retired politician now.

27 posted on 02/18/2005 5:31:38 PM PST by EricT. (Join the Soylent Green Party...We recycle dead environmentalists.)
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To: Drew68
I guess you never saw one of these. The last line applies to Jimmy Carter's entire presidency.


31 posted on 02/18/2005 5:33:28 PM PST by e_engineer
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To: Drew68
>>>And Carter, lest we forget, was a naval officer and a submariner who served honorably. Say what one may about his disastrous presidency, this honor cannot be taken away from him. <<<

You miss the point. The boat was named "Jimmy Carter" because he was President - thus honoring his Presidency. It was not so named because he was a sub-mariner.

"Lest we forget", Jimmy Carter's watch saw the first real Islamic attack against the United States - 44 US citizens held for 440 days - Carter did nothing until it appeared that his tenure as President was threatened and then pulled off the most ham-fisted military operation the US has seen in recent history.

He presided over an economic "malaise" with interest rates approaching 20% (actually I think they may have touched 21%) and simply wrung his hands over the first of the oil crises, telling everyone to wear sweaters.

There will be brave sailors serving on the Jimmy Carter, but the astute will request transfer to another boat!

33 posted on 02/18/2005 5:35:13 PM PST by HardStarboard (PASS)
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To: Drew68

I am a former Naval Officer, as well. I would like a more warlike or patriotic name for the sub.

But we are going to need more subs, since Carter gave North Korea the deal to enable them to have nukes.


34 posted on 02/18/2005 5:38:05 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: Drew68
Thank you. I was surprised at the nasty tone towards the ship and crew. The Carter is in all likelyhood the most advanced sub we have and will no doubt be going in harms way very frequently.
PV77 - who spent the summer of '72 cruising the Barents Sea.
50 posted on 02/18/2005 6:15:17 PM PST by ProudVet77 (rabid, right wing attack dog blogger)
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To: Drew68

<<< was a naval officer and a submariner who served honorably. >>>.

Not according to a neighbour of mine. Didn't he get out of serving by going to look after the peanut farm?


60 posted on 02/18/2005 8:18:37 PM PST by Never2baCrat (I used to be modest, now I'm perfect!)
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