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The Great American Job Sellout
google groups ^ | feb 2005 | Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 02/15/2005 6:44:11 AM PST by dennisw

"The Great American Job Sellout By Paul Craig Roberts

Americans are being sold out on the jobs front. Americans' employment opportunities are declining as a result of corporate outsourcing of US jobs, H-1B visas that import foreigners to displace Americans in their own country, and federal guest worker programs

President Bush and his Republican majority intend to legalize the aliens who hold down wages for construction companies and cleaning services. In order to stretch budgets, state and local governments bring in lower paid foreign nurses and school teachers. To reduce costs, US corporations outsource jobs abroad and use work visa programs to import foreign engineers and programmers. The American job give away is explained by a "shortage" of Americans to take the jobs.

There are not too many Americans willing to accept the pay and working conditions of migrant farm workers. However, the US is bursting at the seams with unemployed computer engineers and well-educated professionals who are displaced by outsourcing and H-1B visas. During Bush's entire first term, there was a net loss of American private sector jobs. Today there are 760,000 fewer private sector jobs in the US economy than when Bush was first inaugurated in January 2001.

For years the hallmark of the European economy was its inability to create any jobs other than government jobs. America has caught up with Europe. During Bush's first term, state and local government created 879,000 new government jobs. Offsetting these government jobs against the net loss in private sector jobs gives Bush a four-year jobs growth of 119,000 government jobs. Comparing this pathetic result to normal performance produces a shortage of 8 million US jobs. What happened to these jobs?

Over these same four years the composition of US jobs has changed from higher-paid manufacturing and information technology jobs to lower-paid domestic services. Why?

During this extraordinary breakdown in the American employment machine, politicians, government officials, corporate spokespersons, and "free trade" economists gave assurances that America was benefitting greatly from the work visa programs and outsourcing.

The mindless chatter continues. Just the other day Ambassador David Gross, US Coordinator for International Communications and Information Policy in the State Department, declared outsourcing to be an economic efficiency that works to America's benefit. There is no sign of this alleged benefit in US jobs statistics or the US balance of trade.

Repeatedly and incorrectly, US corporations state that outsourcing creates more US jobs. They even convinced a New York Times columnist that this was the case.

The problem is, no one can identify where the US jobs are that outsourcing allegedly creates. They are certainly not to be found in the BLS jobs statistics. However, the Indian and Chinese jobs created by US outsourcing are highly visible.

On February 13, the Dayton (Ohio) Daily News reported that jobs outsourcing is transforming Indian "cities like Bangalore from sleepy little backwaters into the New York Cities of Asia." In a very short period outsourcing has helped to raise India from one of the world's poorest countries to its seventh largest economy.

Outsourcing proponents claim that US job loss is being exaggerated, that outsourcing is really just a small thing involving a few call centers. If that is the case, how is it transforming sleepy Indian cities into "the New York Cities of Asia"? If outsourcing is no big deal, why are Bangalore hotel rooms "packed with foreigners paying rates higher than in Tokyo or London," as the Dayton Daily News reports?

If outsourcing is of no real consequence, why are American lawyers or their clients paying $2,900 in fees plus hotel and travel expenses and two days' billings to attend the Fourth National Conference on Outsourcing in Financial Services in Washington DC (April 20-21)?

On the jobs front, as on the war front, the social security front and every other front, Americans are not being given the truth. Americans' news comes from people allied with the Bush administration or dependent on revenues from corporate advertisers. Displease the government or advertisers and your media empire is in trouble. The news most Americans get is filtered. It is the permitted news. Many "free trade" advocates also are dependent on the corporate money that funds their salaries, research and think tanks.

Another clear indication that outsourcing of US jobs is no small thing comes from the reported earnings of the leading Indian corporations that provide American firms with outsourced IT employees and engineers. During the recent quarter, Infosys' revenues increased by 53%, TCS grew by 38%, and Wipro was up 34%.

On January 1, 2001, Cincinnati-based Convergys Corp had one Indian employee. Today it has 10,000. Why? Because it can hire Indian university graduates for $240 a month, a sum that is a small fraction of the US poverty level income.

Many Americans think that an outsourced job is an existing job that is moved offshore. But many outsourced jobs are created offshore in the first place. On February 11, USA Today told the story of OfficeTiger, "the sort of young technology company that once created thousands of high-paying jobs in the USA, fueling sizzling economic growth." The five-year old startup business employs 200 Americans and ten times that number of Indians. The company has plans for hiring many more Indians to perform "tech-heavy financial services."

Under pressure from venture capitalists who fund new companies, American startup firms are starting up abroad. Thus, the new ventures, which "free trade" economists assured us would create new jobs to take the place of the ones moved offshore by mature firms, are in fact creating jobs for foreigners.

As a consequence, tech jobs in the US are falling as a percentage of the total. Clearly, tax breaks for venture capitalists are self-defeating when the result is to create jobs for foreigners, not for Americans. Why should the American taxpayer subsidize employment in India and China?

These developments have obvious adverse implications for engineering and professional education in America. The BLS jobs forecast for the next ten years says the vast majority of US jobs will not require a college education. University enrollments will decline and so will the production of PhDs as fewer professors are needed.

As India and China rise to first world status, the US falls to third world status where the only jobs are in domestic services.

This has enormous implications for the US balance of payments. Americans' consumption of manufactured goods is heavily dependent on foreign manufacture, whether that of foreign firms or that of US multinational firms that supply their American customers from offshore. How does an economy in which employment growth is concentrated in nontradable domestic services pay for its imports with exports?

Since 1990 the US has been paying for its imports by giving foreigners ownership of its assets. In the last 15 years foreigners have accumulated $3.6 trillion of America's wealth.

America has been able to pay for its consumption by giving up its wealth because the dollar is the world's reserve currency. As America's high-tech and manufacturing capabilities decline and its red ink rises, the dollar's role as reserve currency must end.

When the dollar loses its reserve currency role, America will not be able to pay for the imports on which it has become dependent. Shopping in Wal-Mart will be like shopping at Neiman Marcus.

Until recent years, US companies employed Americans to produce the goods that Americans consumed. Employment supported sales, and sales supported employment. No more. By their shortsighted policy of moving US jobs abroad, our corporations are destroying their American markets.

Economists give assurances that the dollar's decline and fall will bring jobs and industry back to the US. Once Americans are as poor as Indians and Chinese are today, the process will reverse. Multinational corporations will locate in America to take advantage of cheap labor and unserved markets. By becoming poor, the US can become rich again.

You might want to ask the economists and our "leaders" in Washington why we should put ourselves and our descendants through such a wrenching process."

--Jerry Leslie Note: les...@jrlvax.houston.rr.com is invalid for email


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; bs; china; freetrade; globalism; loserblog; trade
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To: Conspiracy Guy
"Success is relative."

It is...and too many Americans have become spoiled...MUD

381 posted on 02/15/2005 1:44:16 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (Decrease the Federal Expenditures as a percentage of GDP from its present 20% to 12% by 2013!!)
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To: Havoc
So your definition of slave is: Someone who makes less money thatn you think they should?

"Now that we throw about terminology, we're supposed to excuse it when you go to another country and tacitly do what's illegal here and pretend it's ok because you're making monstrous profits while subverting our economy?!"

What is illegal here paying less wages? You lobby the government to put restrictions on the Free Market and then are outraged the Free Market reacts in a way you don't want it to when every valid economic principle ever conceived points to to the outcome at hand.

Why don't you advocate for what you really want. Why don't you lobby your government for the kind of control you are thirsting for? Come on say it. Say you want the government to control the ebb and flow of the market.

Ask for it.

Call it by its true name.

Say the words, I want to hear it from your quivering lips.

"Please Hillary give me Collectivism in the name of fairness to all."

382 posted on 02/15/2005 1:45:05 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: jpsb
"I would rid the USA of the progressive income tax, bust non utility monopolies, and return to tariffs/sales taxes, give labor more collective bargaining rights and then after a while fine tune the system."

There you go, that's more like it...but I prefer less collective bargaining and more pay fer performance...MUD

383 posted on 02/15/2005 1:46:53 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (Decrease the Federal Expenditures as a percentage of GDP from its present 20% to 12% by 2013!!)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
Be interesting to see:

a) how their real-life qualifications matched up against those on the resume
b) how much they are being paid
c) Some of the resumes from Americans which were 'circular filed' without even being called in for an interview
d) How much of their moving expenses were paid for by themselves vs. by the company

384 posted on 02/15/2005 1:47:07 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: international american

Heh heh heh...as you'll note, jpsb has amended and clarified the intent of his post...MUD


385 posted on 02/15/2005 1:48:43 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (Decrease the Federal Expenditures as a percentage of GDP from its present 20% to 12% by 2013!!)
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To: superiorslots
You supporting the redistribution of wealth as well?

It's a disgrace to this site.

386 posted on 02/15/2005 1:49:25 PM PST by Protagoras (Un-apprehended criminals have no credibility when advocating for the WOD)
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To: jpsb
"...you are KILLING the USA with your unrestrained greed."

I'm "KILLING the USA", am I?! Just becuz I believe the Federal Guv'ment has become too big, too intrusive, and too POWERFUL? Nawww...Big Guv'ment is the problem, not the solution!!

FReegards...MUD

387 posted on 02/15/2005 1:51:31 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (Decrease the Federal Expenditures as a percentage of GDP from its present 20% to 12% by 2013!!)
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To: Mudboy Slim

Yep.


388 posted on 02/15/2005 1:52:27 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Reading is fundamental. Comprehension is optional.)
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To: sultan88

Ping fer the Sultan...MUD


389 posted on 02/15/2005 1:52:35 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (Decrease the Federal Expenditures as a percentage of GDP from its present 20% to 12% by 2013!!)
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To: Mudboy Slim

Unions are a neccessary evil, collective barganing is goodness, but someone needs to figure out how to do a union so that it works for the workers/company and not just the union bosses. Somewhere there is a Nobel prise in this whole collective barganing/union mess if some high IQ person could figure it all out.


390 posted on 02/15/2005 1:53:02 PM PST by jpsb
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To: grey_whiskers

I did the search and interviews myself. I've also had this conversation several times before on FR.

Are you an IT professional looking for a job?


391 posted on 02/15/2005 1:53:52 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: jpsb; Protagoras
"Unions are a neccessary evil, collective barganing is goodness, but someone needs to figure out how to do a union so that it works for the workers/company and not just the union bosses. Somewhere there is a Nobel prise in this whole collective barganing/union mess if some high IQ person could figure it all out."

Ow wait I Know this one...

What is: "Communism works, it just hasn't been tried by the right people, yet."

I'll stick with "More Myths of Socialism" for 200 Alex.

392 posted on 02/15/2005 1:58:16 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: Mudboy Slim
Before reading your post I might add, this is a very active thread. I with it hard to believe you favor allowing the chicom unlimited access to our market, (while placing large tariffs on our goods and manipulating the value of our currency), while using the profits gained to prepare for war with us. That is very strange indeed.
393 posted on 02/15/2005 1:58:24 PM PST by jpsb
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To: L98Fiero

"My field is Network Administration. I am pleased with the prospects and this is Mississippi."

Best of Luck to you! My DH is in the same boat. His current job ends March 31st, and I find 2-3 jobs each week on-line that he could easily be hired for. IT jobs are strong in Wisconsin, too. Manufacturing has rebounded as well.

I just lost my part-time job due to a reorganization, but I can find another. I'mbeing "picky" like you are, because I can afford to be. If you have skills, a good work ethic and half a brain one CAN make a decent living up here, too.

The job market changes from time to time. You have to pay attention and keep upgrading your skills and keep yourself marketable if you want to get anywhere. 'Tain't Rocket Science!


394 posted on 02/15/2005 1:59:38 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: SZonian
That appears to be the big problem in my field, nobody seems inclined to move to where the jobs are and then cry foul because they can't find a similar job in their hometown. Cheers!

Hey!

"Cheers!" is how I end my posts!

Don't outsource that too! :-)

395 posted on 02/15/2005 2:02:47 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: jpsb
"I with it hard to believe you favor allowing the chicom unlimited access to our market, (while placing large tariffs on our goods and manipulating the value of our currency), while using the profits gained to prepare for war with us."

Where the hell did I say THIS?!

SHEEEESH...MUD

396 posted on 02/15/2005 2:03:38 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (Decrease the Federal Expenditures as a percentage of GDP from its present 20% to 12% by 2013!!)
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To: Mad Dawgg

How is collective barganing in a capitalistic system communism? This I gotta hear.


397 posted on 02/15/2005 2:03:44 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Willie Green; neutrino

bump


398 posted on 02/15/2005 2:04:00 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: Mudboy Slim

your 387 reply to my 380.


399 posted on 02/15/2005 2:07:56 PM PST by jpsb
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To: grey_whiskers

Wouldn't dare think of it! Consider it insourced to FR!

Cheers!


400 posted on 02/15/2005 2:08:25 PM PST by SZonian (Tagline???? I don't need no stinkin' tagline!)
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