The Great American Job Sellout

google groups ^ | feb 2005 | Paul Craig Roberts

[Mudboy Slim]

"Success is relative."

It is...and too many Americans have become spoiled...MUD

[Mad Dawgg]

So your definition of slave is: Someone who makes less money thatn you think they should?

"Now that we throw about terminology, we're supposed to excuse it when you go to another country and tacitly do what's illegal here and pretend it's ok because you're making monstrous profits while subverting our economy?!"

What is illegal here paying less wages? You lobby the government to put restrictions on the Free Market and then are outraged the Free Market reacts in a way you don't want it to when every valid economic principle ever conceived points to to the outcome at hand.

Why don't you advocate for what you really want. Why don't you lobby your government for the kind of control you are thirsting for? Come on say it. Say you want the government to control the ebb and flow of the market.

Ask for it.

Call it by its true name.

Say the words, I want to hear it from your quivering lips.

"Please Hillary give me Collectivism in the name of fairness to all."

[Mudboy Slim]

"I would rid the USA of the progressive income tax, bust non utility monopolies, and return to tariffs/sales taxes, give labor more collective bargaining rights and then after a while fine tune the system."

There you go, that's more like it...but I prefer less collective bargaining and more pay fer performance...MUD

[grey_whiskers]

Be interesting to see:

a) how their real-life qualifications matched up against those on the resume
b) how much they are being paid
c) Some of the resumes from Americans which were 'circular filed' without even being called in for an interview
d) How much of their moving expenses were paid for by themselves vs. by the company

[Mudboy Slim]

Heh heh heh...as you'll note, jpsb has amended and clarified the intent of his post...MUD

[Protagoras]

You supporting the redistribution of wealth as well?

It's a disgrace to this site.

[Mudboy Slim]

"...you are KILLING the USA with your unrestrained greed."

I'm "KILLING the USA", am I?! Just becuz I believe the Federal Guv'ment has become too big, too intrusive, and too POWERFUL? Nawww...Big Guv'ment is the problem, not the solution!!

FReegards...MUD

[Conspiracy Guy]

Yep.

[Mudboy Slim]

Ping fer the Sultan...MUD

[jpsb]

Unions are a neccessary evil, collective barganing is goodness, but someone needs to figure out how to do a union so that it works for the workers/company and not just the union bosses. Somewhere there is a Nobel prise in this whole collective barganing/union mess if some high IQ person could figure it all out.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

I did the search and interviews myself. I've also had this conversation several times before on FR.

Are you an IT professional looking for a job?

[Mad Dawgg]

"Unions are a neccessary evil, collective barganing is goodness, but someone needs to figure out how to do a union so that it works for the workers/company and not just the union bosses. Somewhere there is a Nobel prise in this whole collective barganing/union mess if some high IQ person could figure it all out."

Ow wait I Know this one...

What is: "Communism works, it just hasn't been tried by the right people, yet."

I'll stick with "More Myths of Socialism" for 200 Alex.

[jpsb]

Before reading your post I might add, this is a very active thread. I with it hard to believe you favor allowing the chicom unlimited access to our market, (while placing large tariffs on our goods and manipulating the value of our currency), while using the profits gained to prepare for war with us. That is very strange indeed.

[Diana in Wisconsin]

"My field is Network Administration. I am pleased with the prospects and this is Mississippi."

Best of Luck to you! My DH is in the same boat. His current job ends March 31st, and I find 2-3 jobs each week on-line that he could easily be hired for. IT jobs are strong in Wisconsin, too. Manufacturing has rebounded as well.

I just lost my part-time job due to a reorganization, but I can find another. I'mbeing "picky" like you are, because I can afford to be. If you have skills, a good work ethic and half a brain one CAN make a decent living up here, too.

The job market changes from time to time. You have to pay attention and keep upgrading your skills and keep yourself marketable if you want to get anywhere. 'Tain't Rocket Science!

[grey_whiskers]

That appears to be the big problem in my field, nobody seems inclined to move to where the jobs are and then cry foul because they can't find a similar job in their hometown. Cheers!

Hey!

"Cheers!" is how I end my posts!

Don't outsource that too! :-)

[Mudboy Slim]

"I with it hard to believe you favor allowing the chicom unlimited access to our market, (while placing large tariffs on our goods and manipulating the value of our currency), while using the profits gained to prepare for war with us."

Where the hell did I say THIS?!

SHEEEESH...MUD

[jpsb]

How is collective barganing in a capitalistic system communism? This I gotta hear.

[KC_Conspirator]

bump

[jpsb]

your 387 reply to my 380.

[SZonian]

Wouldn't dare think of it! Consider it insourced to FR!

Cheers!