Posted on 02/14/2005 9:56:21 AM PST by atomic_dog
Immigration is not only necessary for American prosperity, it is necessary for American freedom and for the continuation of the background philosophy of this nation's founders (ie, not the freaking pilgrims, those idiot zealots didn't found anything).
America as a philosophy is not wed to a single language or a single so-called national culture, and must be allowed to grow and change as it always has. That's what freedom is all about. The borders should be open and free, and citizenship should go to those who want it, not just to those who feel it some sort of unearned birth right? How absurd. Pay taxes, respect or fight to change the laws. Asking anything else is positively unAmerican.
I, by the way, am an immigrant.
Agreed, the powers that be need to stop the pandering that risks our national security and jeopardizes our sovereignty and start doing their jobs.
If they don't they will lose a significant amount of support.
THESE ARE NOT JOBS AMERICANS WON'T DO!!! These are jobs Americans will not do as cheaply on under as bad of working conditions as an illegal.
From what I hear, McCain is pro-life.
And it will be a disaster.
That I agree with 100%.
What part of ILLEGAL don't you understand?
I have go update my ping list soon. About 1/2 of the posters have been banned.
"Yet most rank-and-file Republican voters take a more sensible position. They believe that immigration should be legal and controlled, occurring at a manageable level accompanied by assimilation. They are receptive to immigrants who actually intend to give their allegiance to America, but don’t see any need to import poverty, cultural balkanization and sociopolitical fragmentation."
Amen to that. That's how this VOTER sees it.
"America as a philosophy is not wed to a single language or a single so-called national culture, and must be allowed to grow and change as it always has. That's what freedom is all about. The borders should be open and free, and citizenship should go to those who want it, not just to those who feel it some sort of unearned birth right? How absurd. Pay taxes, respect or fight to change the laws. Asking anything else is positively unAmerican."
That's the kind of uneducated attitude that will have everyone living according to sharia law someday.
In this day and age the borders should be anything BUT open and free.
Yep.
Listen Up! Basic macro-economic lesson. When businesses are allowed to hire illegals, the price of labor will be artificially reduced.
Well duh!!!
Sorry, but wrong, wrong, wrong. 1) "America as a philosophy is not wed to a single language or a single so-called national culture, and must be allowed to grow and change as it always has." America has, as the twin pilars of its heritage - a) Christianity and b) Anglo-saxon law. I have no idea how you passed your citizenship (or are you a citizen?) exam without learning those facts. That is not to say that we are a Chrisian nation or England, but those two sources provide a huge fraction of our institutions and government. 2) "The borders should be open and free, and citizenship should go to those who want it, not just to those who feel it some sort of unearned birth right?" We believe in private property here, and our country is our joint property. We get to set who comes and goes just like you do in your own house. Our Constitution recognizes citizenship by birth, or didn't you read it? I don't need to justify that any more than what I have already said. In general, I think that you would like things better at DU, than here.
Good. You understand the principle. Now take the next step and apply it.
That is one of the reasons I pointed out what I did. Good example, if the illiegals are rounded up from say a meat processing plant where thwy are paid $8 an hour. And say there are no more illegals to fill the space, then they will have to up the wage to hire Americans.
Its part of the American character.
I'd suggest that one day, Jury Nullification will take care of any and all immigration laws. The system is anti-American. It's like prohibition. It's stupid. Immigration laws hurt America.
We need harsher immigration laws not less. I would like to incarcerate employers who have a repeat history of hiring illegals.
See post #38
What country did you come from?
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