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Immigration Pits GOP Elites Against Conservative Voters
IntellectualConservative.com ^ | 14 February 2005 | W. James Antle III

Posted on 02/14/2005 9:56:21 AM PST by atomic_dog

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To: Slagathor

Some good thoughts ya got there, but what numbers of immigrants would make you happy?


61 posted on 02/14/2005 10:52:51 AM PST by investigateworld (Babies= A sure sign He hasn't given up on mankind!)
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To: RKV

"Whatever he/she/it is, they are a troll."

I wouldn't argue with that. I just like to keep things straight.


62 posted on 02/14/2005 10:52:54 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Slagathor
not the freaking pilgrims, those idiot zealots didn't found anything

Nope, they just sacrificed their lives to lay the groundwork for the colonies which in turn was the foundation for America.

BTW, My family immigrated here too.

Almost 400 years ago.

63 posted on 02/14/2005 10:53:16 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am NOT a *legal entity*!)
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To: RKV

And gone now, too, is Slagathor.


64 posted on 02/14/2005 10:53:42 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: rolling_stone
What country did you come from?

That's what I tried to find out, but he's loooong gone!

65 posted on 02/14/2005 10:54:56 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am NOT a *legal entity*!)
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To: MineralMan

Good riddance.


66 posted on 02/14/2005 10:56:04 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: MineralMan

Didn't even see the zot coming.


67 posted on 02/14/2005 10:56:53 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: Slagathor
I hope everyone is taking note here. He is providing a good example of the distinct difference in basic human decency between immigrants from mexico and immigrants from other parts of the world.
68 posted on 02/14/2005 10:58:43 AM PST by Mulch (tm)
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To: Bikers4Bush

Really! There's enough dispute on this issue among real Freepers. We don't need trolls on this subject. That was quick.


69 posted on 02/14/2005 10:59:14 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Mulch

And how is that, if I may ask?


70 posted on 02/14/2005 10:59:57 AM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: Mulch

Munch, salagathor has been zotted.


71 posted on 02/14/2005 11:00:15 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: MineralMan

Lol! I was thinking the same thing. We all go at each other pretty good as it is, we don't need that kind of lunacy dropped into the pot.


72 posted on 02/14/2005 11:01:48 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: TXBSAFH
Back to mexico? This website is more useful than I thought.
74 posted on 02/14/2005 11:02:51 AM PST by Mulch (tm)
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To: Sam the Sham

I would vote for Hillary before I'd vote for McCain.


75 posted on 02/14/2005 11:08:34 AM PST by johnb838 (Evolution is Paganizm.)
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To: johnb838

I would just write in Howard the Duck.


76 posted on 02/14/2005 11:11:10 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: johnb838

I would never vote for McCain. Never.


77 posted on 02/14/2005 11:12:43 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: robowombat
Thanks for the article and the link. The problems we are experiencing is due to years of liberalism and will require as series of Republican presidents to correct along with change in the Supreme court and continued dominance in Congress. The pendulum swings to and fro but not at an extreme rate, it takes time and persistence and they usually do not start to occur until people realize there is a problem and by then in has roots that are hard to pull out.
78 posted on 02/14/2005 11:12:51 AM PST by TheForceOfOne (Social Security – I thought pyramid schemes were illegal!)
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To: Slagathor
citizenship should go to those who want it

That's fine. Just shut off the socializt welfare tap, and that includes free ER visits and public schooling for non-taxpayers, and we'll talk. As for now, if you're not a citizen and you think citizenship should be for whoever wants it? Not out of MY pocket you don't.

79 posted on 02/14/2005 11:14:26 AM PST by johnb838 (Evolution is Paganizm.)
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To: Slagathor
Yes unrestricted third world immigration will break the US. The rise of a sort of underground Mexamerica state will lead to the Mexicanization of political institutions in much of the SW. The gross abuse of authority and spectacular venality that is a by word in Mexico for government will become the norm in those communities.Frame ups for shake down bribes to the right DAs and judges for the well heeled, auto theft rings run by the police where you have to pay ransom to get your car back, brazen home invasions by thugs outfitted like police (by the police) and snatching attractive females off the street in broad daylight by goons with the right connections with the police all of these will become the norm in those areas politically mexicanized.

The following article deals in some detail with more baleful effects:

OUR COUNTRY COMING UNDONE




By Frosty Wooldridge
November 2, 2004
NewsWithViews.com

This article examines seven destructive points being injected into America by over 10 million illegal immigrants already in this country and 3 million arriving annually. This massive ‘unarmed Army’ manifests at an ever increasing speed—the undoing of America.
For the first time in history, the United States suffered a crippling attack inside its borders on 9/11. Three years later, because our government leaders refuse to protect our southern flank, we are being attacked by an 'unarmed army' of millions who have invaded our country by crossing our borders.

Time Magazine, September 12, 2004, "Who Left The Door Open?" documented 4,000 illegal aliens crossing nightly and over three million intruders will cross in 2004. It’s an invasion unprecedented in the history of the United States. Worse, it’s being facilitated by our elected leaders to the highest levels in the White House.

Even more distressing is a concerted push by both major parties to assist this army to not only enter our country against our laws, but also to gain access to everything we have built with the blood, sweat and tears of American citizens.

Today, millions of illegal aliens are causing accelerating damage to our schools, hospitals, social programs, highways, language, sprawl, standard of living and our way of life. Should illegal aliens enjoy driver's licenses, amnesty, welfare and schooling of their children on our tax dollars? Just because they came here to work for a better life?

The sobering reality is that two billion people would move to America if given a ticket today. However, it's impossible. We are a nation of laws and we have horrific problems of unemployment at 18 million people, $7.4 trillion debt, collapsing hospitals, diseases and growing language conflicts.

Somehow, the media and the 'elite' of this country have forced us into this accelerating crisis. Polls show 70% of Americans want illegal immigration stopped and serious reductions in legal immigration down to fewer than 100,000 per year.



Astoundingly, 10% of Mexico now lives in our country. Fully 75% of all drugs cross over from Mexico. We pay $68 billion in expenses for immigrants annually. They send home hard currency of $10.5 billion to Mexico, $25 billion to Latin America, $16 billion to Asia thus draining our country. In short, illegal immigration is killing this country.

We MUST create a dialog on the future prospects of our nation by addressing seven major points: If you own a home, you maintain a door. You welcome guests after they knock and you lock it to keep out unwanted incursions. Just as every house needs a door, every country needs a border to maintain its right to privacy, self-maintenance and personal freedom. Our nation's door has been invaded by over 10 million people who broke the latch and marched in as if they had the right to such a crime. They continue at 1 million per year.

However, this is a nation where the ‘rule of law’ is the most important brick in the foundation of our constitution. The ‘rule of law’ allows our freedom, our integrity and our right to choose what and whom we want or don't want in our nation. We don't want terrorists. We don't want border crashers who bring drugs. We don't want illegal aliens who suppress wages, over run our schools, usurp our language and overwhelm our social services.

Illegal immigration hurts America's poor. In a recent account in the New York Times, black children suffered 50% greater poverty in the past 10 years due to immigration. Illegal immigrants compete for jobs normally done by America's poor. A study by the Center For Immigration Studies wrote, "Mexican immigration is overwhelmingly unskilled and it's hard to find an economic argument for unskilled immigration because it tends to reduce wages for U.S. workers."

Cheap labor from illegal immigration is not 'cheap.' It's subsidized by all of us in the form of our tax dollars paying for their services. It makes a few employers wealthy at the expense of all of us. The National Academy of Sciences found "...a significant fiscal drain of $7,000 per student per year paid for by U.S. tax dollars."

These newcomers do not respect our English language. Adding more salt into our national wound of this invasion, there is not a single bilingual country in the world that is at peace with itself. Dozens of languages cause educational confusion, conflict and violence. When people move to this country, but maintain their language, their culture and their old loyalties, it's a recipe for the undoing of our nation.

With that demise, our cohesive national fabric shreds as ethnic ghettoes advance across our nation with rituals such as female genital mutilation, cock fighting and violent groups espousing clashing cultures. Too many unskilled, uneducated, non-English speaking people living in too much poverty will not advance our nation. The Center for Immigration Studies points out; "The lower educational attainment of immigrants persists across generations as two thirds of immigrant workers lack a high school diploma." Democracy is a delicate form of government that demands an educated populace with similar moral and ethical standards and a single language.

And finally, illegal immigrants crossing our borders without being health screened have brought us 7,000 new cases of leprosy in the past three years. Additionally, they brought 16,000 cases of incurable (multiple drug resistant) tuberculosis, thousands of cases of hepatitis, head lice, Chagas Disease and Exotic New Castle. Since 1.1 million illegal alien children attend U.S. schools, our children are at risk.

"The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, or preventing all possibility of its continuing as a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities." -- President Teddy Roosevelt, 1902.

Without a national debate on illegal immigration, our country will continue its downward spiral into conditions resembling the Third World.

Their numbers will burgeon from 10 million to 20 million and beyond. If we don't take action today, we won't be able to take action tomorrow.

© 2004 Frosty Wooldridge - All Rights Reserved
80 posted on 02/14/2005 11:16:39 AM PST by robowombat
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