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Immigration Pits GOP Elites Against Conservative Voters
IntellectualConservative.com ^ | 14 February 2005 | W. James Antle III

Posted on 02/14/2005 9:56:21 AM PST by atomic_dog

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To: rolling_stone

My thought was similar but was this, "What socialist rock did you crawl out from under?".


41 posted on 02/14/2005 10:39:56 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Slagathor

What planet do you live on ? Libertarian world where everything is pure theory regardless of the cost of real world consequences ?

America is a nation. Not a market. Not a "philosophy".


42 posted on 02/14/2005 10:39:59 AM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: Slagathor

So lets let in any and all criminals and the physically and mentally ill. I don't think so, and thankfully, neither does the overwhelming majority of Americans.


43 posted on 02/14/2005 10:40:35 AM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: Slagathor
America as a philosophy is not wed to a single language?
It's English, you're using right now.

or a single so-called national culture?
Wrong, We are a melting pot not a tossed bowl of salad as liberals want to claim by using the very destructive term "Multiculturalism", Those who come here and do not mesh into our society destroy it. It is not a matter of where you are coming from by where you are going.

not the freaking pilgrims, those idiot zealots didn't found anything?
That is beyond a response, you need to go back from where you came from and reenter legally.

The borders should be open and free?
The worst of the worst liberal mentality, I suppose we should just bring in a million Muslim radicals tomorrow, no background checks, no worries about rapists, murderers, terrorists, and criminals right? Wow, you're Castro's type of guy, Just empty those prisons and insane asylums when they're full hell we'll send a boat over to pick them up.

Where are you from, Canada? good grief!
44 posted on 02/14/2005 10:41:02 AM PST by TheForceOfOne (Social Security – I thought pyramid schemes were illegal!)
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To: atomic_dog
Even if only by getting a third party candidate with strong bona fides on illegal immigration in the race to siphon off sufficient votes from the Republicans

Want to bet that the issue devides the RATS more than it divides the GOP ?
45 posted on 02/14/2005 10:41:52 AM PST by John Lenin (Moral decay is running rampant and good people do nothing)
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To: RKV

Sorry, but wrong, wrong, wrong. 1) "America as a philosophy is not wed to a single language or a single so-called national culture, and must be allowed to grow and change as it always has." America has, as the twin pilars of its heritage - a) Christianity and b) Anglo-saxon law.

What?

Look. America is a country defined by opportunity, by changing standards, by egalitarianism, it's a meritocracy kept afloat by putting into play the spirit to do one's best. People who are opposed to immigration are afraid. Afraid that they will be exposed as being unable to change, or as being incompetent, or as being bigoted. How did the Poles get here? Or the Swedes? Or the Latinos? Or the Germans? Or, for that matter, the Anglos? It is ridiculous to suppose that the rules have somehow changed because your tiny group feels threatened. This is America. If you don't like our Freedom, why don't you immigrate to somewhere your xenophobic ideas will be welcomed?


46 posted on 02/14/2005 10:42:22 AM PST by Slagathor
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To: TXBSAFH

We need harsher immigration laws not less. I would like to incarcerate employers who have a repeat history of hiring illegals.


What have you got against Republicans?


47 posted on 02/14/2005 10:43:26 AM PST by Slagathor
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To: Slagathor
Laws that protect American citizens are stupid? Please elaborate.
48 posted on 02/14/2005 10:44:00 AM PST by Mulch (tm)
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To: Slagathor
What have you got against Republicans?

Its all becoming clear now.

49 posted on 02/14/2005 10:44:22 AM PST by skeeter (OBL "Americans" won't honor any law that interferes with their pocketbooks)
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To: Slagathor

Nothing, but I do think that people who deliberatly and repeatedly break laws need to spend a few years of quality time in the greybar hotel.


50 posted on 02/14/2005 10:46:13 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: Slagathor

My family has been here for 350 years. I am not going anywhere. Our country is not defined by "opportunity" or "changing standards." This country is defined by our love for our fellow citizens, by our respect for their fundamental rights and by our willingness to defend our republican form of government as defined in our founding documents. I don't know what country (planet) you can from, but as another poster has stated, perhaps you ought to go back there and re-immigrate - legally this time.


51 posted on 02/14/2005 10:46:43 AM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: Slagathor

The majority of Americans aren't opposed to immigration they're opposed to ILLEGAL immigration.

But since you apparently don't have the ability to differentiate between the two my opinion is that with respect to this issue you should be ignored.


52 posted on 02/14/2005 10:48:42 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: RKV

"perhaps you ought to go back there and re-immigrate - legally this time.
"

I didn't see anything that indicated that he's an illegal immigrant. He only said that he's and immigrant. Sorry if I got the gender wrong.


53 posted on 02/14/2005 10:49:08 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Slagathor
If you don't like our Freedom, why don't you immigrate to somewhere your xenophobic ideas will be welcomed?

I love America... where else can newcomers tell the natives to get lost?

What a country!

54 posted on 02/14/2005 10:49:27 AM PST by skeeter (OBL "Americans" won't honor any law that interferes with their pocketbooks)
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To: Mulch

How does keeping cheap labor out of the country hurt anyone? How does keeping productive would-be citizens out of the country damage the nation? Does anyone really think that Latino immigration is going to destroy America? Does anyone really fear the imposition of Sharia Law in this country? Freedom of Relgion will take care of that last part, and, honestly, if Anglo culture fears wave upon wave of landscapers, fruitpickers and dishwashers slowly moving up the corporate ladder, then Anglo culture obviously has some pretty serious issues that *should* destroy it. Come on. Show some compassion. Everyone deserves the opportunity to prove themselves.


55 posted on 02/14/2005 10:50:03 AM PST by Slagathor
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To: Bikers4Bush

Exactly, I have nothing against someone who immigrates leagally, but illegals should be deported and those who hire then jailed.


56 posted on 02/14/2005 10:50:52 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: RKV

Sounds like he drank the 'living document' koolaid.


57 posted on 02/14/2005 10:51:18 AM PST by monkeywrench
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To: Slagathor; Munch

It has hurt me, it has hurt my family, it hurts all Americans when you use illegal labor to artificially depress wages in this country.


58 posted on 02/14/2005 10:52:06 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: MineralMan

Whatever he/she/it is, they are a troll.


59 posted on 02/14/2005 10:52:08 AM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: Slagathor
Afraid that they will be exposed as being unable to change?

I guess it would be great to say "wow, America used to be a great place until we listened to idiots like you and let all the terrorists, rapists, murderers, and criminals in" hell lets just let them in now and give them driver's licenses at the border with a spot to put your picture in later. Tell Osama and his buddies to come on in the coast is clear!!! Hell, lets drive them right to the White House and point to the window closest to the president so as not to waste any ammo.
60 posted on 02/14/2005 10:52:49 AM PST by TheForceOfOne (Social Security – I thought pyramid schemes were illegal!)
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