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To: rface

Immigration is not only necessary for American prosperity, it is necessary for American freedom and for the continuation of the background philosophy of this nation's founders (ie, not the freaking pilgrims, those idiot zealots didn't found anything).

America as a philosophy is not wed to a single language or a single so-called national culture, and must be allowed to grow and change as it always has. That's what freedom is all about. The borders should be open and free, and citizenship should go to those who want it, not just to those who feel it some sort of unearned birth right? How absurd. Pay taxes, respect or fight to change the laws. Asking anything else is positively unAmerican.

I, by the way, am an immigrant.


21 posted on 02/14/2005 10:20:11 AM PST by Slagathor
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To: Slagathor

What part of ILLEGAL don't you understand?


25 posted on 02/14/2005 10:24:41 AM PST by Mulch (tm)
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To: Slagathor

"America as a philosophy is not wed to a single language or a single so-called national culture, and must be allowed to grow and change as it always has. That's what freedom is all about. The borders should be open and free, and citizenship should go to those who want it, not just to those who feel it some sort of unearned birth right? How absurd. Pay taxes, respect or fight to change the laws. Asking anything else is positively unAmerican."

That's the kind of uneducated attitude that will have everyone living according to sharia law someday.

In this day and age the borders should be anything BUT open and free.


28 posted on 02/14/2005 10:26:38 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Slagathor

Sorry, but wrong, wrong, wrong. 1) "America as a philosophy is not wed to a single language or a single so-called national culture, and must be allowed to grow and change as it always has." America has, as the twin pilars of its heritage - a) Christianity and b) Anglo-saxon law. I have no idea how you passed your citizenship (or are you a citizen?) exam without learning those facts. That is not to say that we are a Chrisian nation or England, but those two sources provide a huge fraction of our institutions and government. 2) "The borders should be open and free, and citizenship should go to those who want it, not just to those who feel it some sort of unearned birth right?" We believe in private property here, and our country is our joint property. We get to set who comes and goes just like you do in your own house. Our Constitution recognizes citizenship by birth, or didn't you read it? I don't need to justify that any more than what I have already said. In general, I think that you would like things better at DU, than here.


32 posted on 02/14/2005 10:28:43 AM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: Slagathor
No one here is swayed by slogans & propoganda, let alone orwellian groupthink - they're relying on their eyes & ears to inform their opinions.

Its part of the American character.

35 posted on 02/14/2005 10:34:04 AM PST by skeeter (OBL "Americans" won't honor any law that interferes with their pocketbooks)
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To: Slagathor
America as a philosophy is not wed to a single language?
It's English, you're using right now.

or a single so-called national culture?
Wrong, We are a melting pot not a tossed bowl of salad as liberals want to claim by using the very destructive term "Multiculturalism", Those who come here and do not mesh into our society destroy it. It is not a matter of where you are coming from by where you are going.

not the freaking pilgrims, those idiot zealots didn't found anything?
That is beyond a response, you need to go back from where you came from and reenter legally.

The borders should be open and free?
The worst of the worst liberal mentality, I suppose we should just bring in a million Muslim radicals tomorrow, no background checks, no worries about rapists, murderers, terrorists, and criminals right? Wow, you're Castro's type of guy, Just empty those prisons and insane asylums when they're full hell we'll send a boat over to pick them up.

Where are you from, Canada? good grief!
44 posted on 02/14/2005 10:41:02 AM PST by TheForceOfOne (Social Security – I thought pyramid schemes were illegal!)
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To: Slagathor
not the freaking pilgrims, those idiot zealots didn't found anything

Nope, they just sacrificed their lives to lay the groundwork for the colonies which in turn was the foundation for America.

BTW, My family immigrated here too.

Almost 400 years ago.

63 posted on 02/14/2005 10:53:16 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am NOT a *legal entity*!)
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To: Slagathor
citizenship should go to those who want it

That's fine. Just shut off the socializt welfare tap, and that includes free ER visits and public schooling for non-taxpayers, and we'll talk. As for now, if you're not a citizen and you think citizenship should be for whoever wants it? Not out of MY pocket you don't.

79 posted on 02/14/2005 11:14:26 AM PST by johnb838 (Evolution is Paganizm.)
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To: Slagathor
"The borders should be open and free, and citizenship should go to those who want it"

I disagree. I am for legal immigration but having "open and free" borders is the E ticket to suicide.

Regarding citizenship, it is a privilege, not a right of a foreigner to gain US citizenship. It SHOULD be conditional, in this day and age, to think otherwise is not conducive to self preservation as a nation.

There are some who obtain US citizenship that wish us ill will. That is a fact.
159 posted on 02/15/2005 5:55:12 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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