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When Sexuality Undercuts A Family's Ties
Washington Post ^ | February 13, 2005 | Marc Fisher

Posted on 02/13/2005 8:46:21 AM PST by Scenic Sounds

M aya Keyes loves her father and mother. She put off college and moved from the family home in Darnestown to Chicago to be with her dad on a grand adventure. Even though she disagrees with him on "almost everything" political, she worked hard for his quixotic and losing campaign for the U.S. Senate.

Now Maya Keyes -- liberal, lesbian and a little lost -- finds herself out on her own. She says her parents -- conservative commentator and perennial candidate Alan Keyes and his wife, Jocelyn -- threw her out of their house, refused to pay her college tuition and stopped speaking to her.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alankeyes; familyvalues; homosexualagenda
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To: followerofchrist

Your story of the Buddhist parents is interesting. But to understand fully, we need to know what you mean when you write about "very strict but not authoritarian" parenting. How would you differentiate between "very strict" and "authoritarian"?


61 posted on 02/13/2005 11:21:07 AM PST by Capriole (the Luddite hypocritically clicking away on her computer)
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To: Scenic Sounds
Having read the excerpts fromt eh article you provided, I think Dr. and Mrs. Keyes did exactly the right thing.

Their daughter is not a child any more. In their words:

"My daughter is an adult, and she is responsible for her own actions."

And if anyone is to regret anything with good reason, it should be Maya.

62 posted on 02/13/2005 11:25:09 AM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: k2blader

Well, I guess that settles that!! ;-)


63 posted on 02/13/2005 11:30:13 AM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: phil1750

I am sure that causes you a great deal of pain, but I think you are doing the right hing, keep an open loving home ready for the daughter but do not allow yourselfs to support her lifestyle..


64 posted on 02/13/2005 11:31:25 AM PST by N3WBI3
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To: Scenic Sounds

And yeah, I was fairly easy on my parents, or at least that's what they say *now*. ;-)


65 posted on 02/13/2005 11:31:31 AM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: followerofchrist
The other week when I was there, the daughter (who is still at home) was expressing support of gay marriage.

I have to question your definition of "good kid" with a child expressing such an opinion.

Unfortunately, most people do not distinguish between "good," and "nice." They are far from the same thing.

Furthermore, these anecdotes of orthodox bad children and unorthodox good children seem to proliferate amongst those that can't make the previously mentioned distinction. I tend to think such people are more sensitized to see that which confirms a bias than that which contradicts it.

Personally, I see no substantive moral difference between an belligerent baptist kid, and a calm, relativistic, buddhist kid. They are both willful, but one is less irritating to the parents... hardly a standard I'd call sublime.

66 posted on 02/13/2005 11:33:30 AM PST by papertyger (If you're gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough.)
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To: k2blader
And yeah, I was fairly easy on my parents, or at least that's what they say *now*. ;-)

Well, you didn't even have to say that - I assumed as much!!

I think I was more of a challenge. ROFL. ;-)

67 posted on 02/13/2005 11:34:19 AM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: Melas
I'm a big advocate unconditional love.

On what basis, and how practiced?

68 posted on 02/13/2005 11:36:03 AM PST by papertyger (If you're gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough.)
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To: followerofchrist

Excellent post.


69 posted on 02/13/2005 11:36:35 AM PST by lodwick (Integrity has no need of rules. Albert Camus)
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To: Scenic Sounds

Well, JMO, but it seems you turned out all right! :-)


70 posted on 02/13/2005 11:37:17 AM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: k2blader
Well, JMO, but it seems you turned out all right! :-)

Well, thank you so much for saying that. You've been a good influence on me. ;-)

71 posted on 02/13/2005 11:39:13 AM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: papertyger

On an old thread that was yanked, I was attempting to discuss the concept of "love" with an anti-Keyes FReeper. I came to the conclusion that our definitions of the word did not match, which was kind of surprising.


72 posted on 02/13/2005 11:42:24 AM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: Scenic Sounds

Good for Alan Keyes. This spoiled brat is attempting to blackmail him, much like the son of Terry Randall. As long as she rebels, let her face the consequences of tough love.


73 posted on 02/13/2005 11:43:57 AM PST by ViLaLuz
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To: SuzyQue

I'm missing something. Which overtly hostile acts are you referring to? I haven't seen anything that I'd call overtly hostile, but then again, I might have easily missed something.


74 posted on 02/13/2005 11:46:02 AM PST by Melas
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To: papertyger
On what basis, and how practiced?

My children know that they'll always find love on my doorstep. I might not always agree with them, I might not approve, but I'll always love them.

75 posted on 02/13/2005 11:47:30 AM PST by Melas
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To: KC_for_Freedom
He also has not set foot inside a synagogue since, (well once in college to check out for Jewish girls in the new community).

This is why I favor the Day School for Jews including an extended trip to Israel.

It is every parent's joy to see their children embrace the truth and cleave to it. It is a tremendous disappointment to see them apostasize.

76 posted on 02/13/2005 11:49:35 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Scenic Sounds

1 FReeper down, 53,279 to go!! ;-)


77 posted on 02/13/2005 11:49:38 AM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: jeremiah

Right off the bat I can see that you equate conservative with strict, and I do not. We're not even remotely on the same page on this one. I never mentioned conservative and liberal households.


78 posted on 02/13/2005 11:49:41 AM PST by Melas
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To: Melas

So you would say Ted Kaczynki's brother David should have loved Ted, unconditionally?


79 posted on 02/13/2005 11:49:52 AM PST by bvw
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To: Melas
I could see pulling the purse strings, but not talking to the child just seems incredibly wrong to me.

I can see the deep feeling of betrayal Dr. Keyes might experience to cut off communication. After all, do you have any doubt the daughter was practising deception by omission? I'm sure in the Keyes household opinions are not valued just because you happen to like them, but because you can argue their merits. If daughter is holding opinions reprehensible to her father's, and refuses to engage father to give him the opportunity to refute those opinions, what is left?

He either cuts her off, or tacitly agrees to accept her proclivities.

80 posted on 02/13/2005 11:54:47 AM PST by papertyger (If you're gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough.)
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