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I have long thought that child care and the feeling of kids being abandoned has contributed to the rise in child anger, hyper kids, over-medication of children and the list goes on and on.......
1 posted on 02/11/2005 9:38:27 PM PST by Salvation
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To: Salvation

Agreed.

It only harms our nation when people are more interested in money than their own children.


2 posted on 02/11/2005 9:39:51 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: Salvation
Yes and this is want that wonderful movement called "woman's liberation" did. It started with my generation called "the latch-key kids". It has only gotten worse for the kids.
4 posted on 02/11/2005 10:05:34 PM PST by Anti-Christ is Hillary (John Kerry - Flip Flop shock and awe)
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To: Salvation

My older two children stayed with my mom during the day when they were younger and my ex and I worked. Now, my current husband stays home with our toddler because I make more than him and have better benefits. We are both totally against daycare.


6 posted on 02/11/2005 10:22:47 PM PST by conservative cat
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To: Salvation

Lived through it. It's even worse than is being presented here.


7 posted on 02/11/2005 10:27:42 PM PST by thoughtomator (reporting from Cylon-occupied Caprica)
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To: Salvation
Along with this, many Americans have been imbued with the idea that to create an "authentic self" complete autonomy is needed in beliefs, opinions and choices in life. Thus, teaching children how to behave becomes forbidden and parents are transformed from figures of authority "into facilitators, cheerfully escorting the child's own unique self into maturity.

This is quite possibly the stupidest "theory" about raising children I have ever seen. Who thinks up this nonsense? My children are quite welcome to become their "own unique self" when they're old enough to be on their own. Until then, they will be given moral guidance and shared family values. We're a one income family in a 2 income world and we struggled for most of those years. There were times when my husband would work a second job so I could be with our boys. Now that they're older (one is just out of the Coast Guard and the other just starting at the local community college), both of them say having me home was more important than the stuff their friends got (even if they didn't think they felt that way at the time).

It's interesting, though that as the spoiled boomers children are having children, there's almost a reverse exodus back into the home. They won't regret it as the perks are priceless...you just can't get open-mouthed jelly-kisses in the secretarial pool (okay, maybe you can in this day and age).

10 posted on 02/11/2005 10:47:24 PM PST by gardencatz (Cindie)
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To: Salvation

Children need a nuclear family with a mother and a father and the mother home when the children are home especially during the middle and high school years.


12 posted on 02/11/2005 10:52:40 PM PST by Coleus (Oppose Amnesty for Illegal Aliens http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1335643/posts)
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To: Salvation
One of the most moronic ideas to come down the pike is that children somehow benefit by spending a lot of time with others of their "peer" group who are just as clueless as they themselves are. Children who spend most of their time with adults, learning how adults interact (presuming good adult behavior), learning how to interact with adults, aren't missing out on their childhood, they're learning how to be adults, and that is the business of childhood. It always was this way until someone invented the concept of childhood as a gigantic stretch of time to be enjoyed before having to become an adult. As a result, we have childhood extending up through the twenties, especially among those who want nothing to do except make a lot of money and recreate.
20 posted on 02/12/2005 12:32:07 AM PST by aruanan
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To: longtermmemmory; shaggy eel; Indie; Fiddlstix
Family/fathers' rights ping! Fathers' rights are family rights. Give me a private reply to get on or off of this ping list.

Oh, and as for the feminist part of the plan for socialism, big labor pool profits in the short run but bankruptcy in the long run,...

"Then it will be plain that the first condition for the liberation of the wife is to bring the whole female sex back into public industry, and that this in turn demands the abolition of the monogamous family as the economic unit of society" (Frederick Engels, "Origins of the Family, Private Property, and the State").

Mao's Little Red Book on Women
http://www.paulnoll.com/China/Mao/Mao-31-Women.html

Some of Lenin's words on women
http://www.marx.org/archive/lenin/works/1919/nov/06.htm

The following is from the "Manifesto of the Communist Party" (Karl Marx (1818-1883) and Fredrick Engels)
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch02.htm

"The bourgeois sees his wife a mere instrument of production. He hears that the instruments of production are to be exploited in common, and, naturally, can come to no other conclusion that the lot of being common to all will likewise fall to the women."

He has not even a suspicion that the real point aimed at is to do away with the status of women as mere instruments of production.

For the rest, nothing is more ridiculous than the virtuous indignation of our bourgeois at the community of women which, they pretend, is to be openly and officially established by the Communists. The Communists have no need to introduce free love; it has existed almost from time immemorial."


“Everyone who knows anything of history also knows that great social revolutions are impossible without the feminine ferment. Social progress may be measured precisely by the social position of the fair sex (plain ones included)” (Karl Marx Letter to Ludwig Kugelmann, MECW, Volume 43, p. 184, http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1868/letters/68_12_12.htm)
23 posted on 02/12/2005 12:52:24 AM PST by familyop ("If you disrespect women you are not allowed to wear a mohawk" (Feminist Creed).)
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To: Salvation
Liberation's children, Hymowitz notes, "live in a culture that frees the mind and soul by emptying them."

Yes indeed. The poor neglected kids go from RugRats to MallRats to DemocRats without stopping to think. But they do watch Oprah and know they should be everything they can be, whatever that is.

30 posted on 02/12/2005 2:13:39 AM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Salvation; All

Does anyone have any idea at all how it was possible for the wacky ideas of a few radicals, to become the "gospel" for the majority of large corporations (hiring practices and advertising), the media, the educational system (all levels) and all levels and branches of government? There are probably many who are too young to remember the pervasiveness of these idiotic theories, but there were few areas unaffected.

There are plenty of theories out there, that might be pursued, but thankfully they are not. Though there are a few that should be. What or who was the force behind the culture-destroying theories of the 60's and 70's?


32 posted on 02/12/2005 5:45:35 AM PST by David Isaac
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To: Salvation

"contributed to the rise in child anger, hyper kids, over-medication"etc.

No problem, just give them more drugs after instituting a national mandatory psychological screening so the term "normal " can be eliminated from the language. We wouldn't want anyones parents to feel badly about raising children.


33 posted on 02/12/2005 5:53:27 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Salvation

So if she admits that there has been an explosion in divorce and single parenthood why does she blame daycare? Why not condemn the root cause?


34 posted on 02/12/2005 5:58:07 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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This attitude of parents today is exhibited in the atrocious behavior of their children in public. No one is bothering to civilize the children. The parents seem to be feckless bystanders, while their children feel frightened at being in control when they know they can't handle it. Very sad for our society.


35 posted on 02/12/2005 6:00:23 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Salvation
I work as a school nurse and the number of children on psychotropic drugs is criminal...but there a minority of kids that do need meds but most do not...most of these meds are not approved to be used on children...one has to look into the background of these kids...no parents around, raised by daycare, divorce..parents living with boyfriends, girlfriends,sending kids to school ill because neither parent can take time from work to stay home with them...my favorite was the kindergartner that came off the bus to my office with a fever...mom knew she was ill but she had an "important" tennis tournament to play in that day...love making the phone call to that mom....hee-hee....now their are single parents that do a great job and that is because they make their children a priority and not their social lives....next time you drive by a daycare look at all the kids hanging on that chain link fence....it reminds me of prisoners looking towards freedom
42 posted on 02/12/2005 7:10:29 AM PST by Kimmers
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To: Salvation

I thought the village was sposed to be handlin this.


48 posted on 02/12/2005 7:59:41 AM PST by iconoclast (Can anyone direct me to any place in our founding documents where "democracy" is mentioned?)
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