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Males slow to realise 'men are quick thinkers' claim could offend
The Australian ^ | February 07, 2005 | Roger Dobson and Will Iredale

Posted on 02/11/2005 6:20:56 AM PST by presidio9

BOYS may be outperformed by girls at school but there is a glimmer of hope for them. Researchers claim to have found scientific proof that men can think faster than women.

Their study found that men's brain cells could transmit nerve impulses faster than women's – potentially giving males the intellectual edge.

The claim will add fuel to the debate recently triggered by Larry Summers, the president of Harvard University, who challenged the prevailing wisdom when he suggested women were innately less able than men in subjects such as maths and science.

The new study is likely to prompt similar anger. This weekend, the intellectual credentials of the researchers – all male – were themselves already being challenged by other eminent neurologists. In the study, scientists measured nerve conduction velocity, the speed at which messages passed through and between brain cells.

Other studies have suggested the speed of such impulses is linked to intelligence, drawing parallels with computers, where faster processors result in more power to carry out tasks quickly.

The latest paper, to be published shortly in the academic journal Intelligence, will say: "Males had four faster NCVs than females. This very significant sex difference in all test conditions in favour of males was most unexpected."

Under the research, scientists carried out investigations on 186 male and 201 female Canadian students, who were subjected to a battery of cognitive tests to assess their intelligence and other mental skills.

Researchers also measured the length of their subjects' heads to estimate the distance impulses would have to travel from the eye to the primary visual cortex, which interprets what someone is seeing.

Then they used electrodes to measure how long it took for an image flashed in front of the eye to send an impulse back to the visual cortex.

Professor Edward Reed, a zoologist at Toronto University, and Philip Vernon and Andrew Johnson, psychologists at the University of Western Ontario, found the impulses were speeding through men's brains faster than through women's. They suggest this is because the nerves in men's brains have a slightly thicker coating of myelin, a fatty material which protects the nerves and improves conductivity.

The report concludes: "We find that males have four faster NCVs than females with each of the three test conditions, probably due to their faster increase of white matter in the brain during adolescence."

The researchers appear to have realised only recently that such conclusions could prove political and controversial. This weekend all three were refusing to comment on their findings although Vernon said he would consider replying to emails.

It has long been clear that men's and women's brains do have important differences and each tends to perform certain tasks slightly better than the other. For example, some studies suggest men have better spatial skills, while women may be more emotionally aware and verbally fluent.

However, most experts point out that the differences are small compared with the similarities and that there is far more variation between individuals than genders.

Bruce Burns, assistant professor in the department of psychology at Michigan State University, conducted a study of chess players, suggesting those who were quicker thinkers were likely to make better moves.

He said: "There is controversy about sex difference but there seems to be a fair amount of agreement that men do tend to have better visual spatial skills. However, I am not sure we can say that makes them more intelligent."

Desmond Morris, the social anthropologist and zoologist, said evolutionary pressures were likely to have given men and women slightly different skills. "Perhaps men's better visual responses came from having to hunt animals while women developed personal skills from child-rearing and co-operating to grow or gather plants," he said.

However, others reject such simple analyses, comparing the methods of the Canadian research to phrenology, a discredited Victorian science which attempted to link intelligence, creativity and other mental faculties to the size and shape of people's skulls.

Professor Steven Rose, director of the brain and behaviour research group at Britain's Open University, said previous studies suggested no difference in decision-making between men and women. "It is true that men and women use different parts of the brain for similar tasks but the time taken to complete the tasks is identical."

Bea Campbell, the feminist writer and historian, also questioned the findings. "The distribution of intelligence is much the same for all genders and all races," she said. "Our experience and common sense tells us that the quest to prove one or another biological group is brainier than the other is really a vain exercise."


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To: LauraleeBraswell

5) We handle being alone better
6) We are better at creating social circles (see 5)
7) We would rather have no sex at all than bad sex :)


121 posted on 02/11/2005 9:21:59 AM PST by najida (Where is my smelling nose dog and my parking space! I have Anomsia, ya know.)
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To: Mark17

We don't need to point it out. We're equal but different.


122 posted on 02/11/2005 9:23:18 AM PST by dcnd9
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To: dennisw

I don't think the issue is being a consumer, I think it is just bad manners and rude. Poor manners are not a male or female thing.

How about we compare the difference between men and women in hotel rooms. I remember reading an article about the difference housekeepers saw in male vs female guests. The housekeepers found women to be the slopiest. The reason given by the article was that wemen were taking advantage of having a made and were thus extra sloppy.

Its only anecdotal but I do notice a difference between the manners of younger women and older women. (though single lawyer women are rude across the age spectrum)

I don't think manners are being taught at all anywhere. The classic example of the woman who can't get her man to listen to her during a sporting event, only tells me she does not care about his interests. I am certain there are examples on the other side.

As for those who laugh about the shades of red, consider how men will know which muscle car is painted candy apple red, fire engine red with metal flake, relective red, sports red, ferrari red, racing red, mustang red, mg red, or any other nuance red. You know what you learn.


124 posted on 02/11/2005 9:31:37 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!


125 posted on 02/11/2005 9:32:20 AM PST by PaRebel (Visualize Whirled Peas!)
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To: najida; LauraleeBraswell; dcnd9
And that advantage is what? ;)

Wrong on all accounts, but I think Najida has an idea, but this is a public forum, so I can't say publicly what that ONE advantage women have is. -:)

126 posted on 02/11/2005 9:34:22 AM PST by Mark17
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To: Mark17

Getting pregnant/having a baby.... is okay to say!!


127 posted on 02/11/2005 9:36:17 AM PST by dcnd9
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To: presidio9

There are inherent differences in the sexes. It was meant to be that way. We balance each other out. You know, mothers and fathers???


128 posted on 02/11/2005 9:36:19 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: dcnd9

And, by the way, welcome to FR.


129 posted on 02/11/2005 9:36:26 AM PST by Mark17
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To: Mark17

Darlin',

Women would rather have no sex than bad sex.

To men, there is no such thing as bad sex.

Hence, the battle of the sexes from the beginning of time.


130 posted on 02/11/2005 9:36:47 AM PST by najida (Where is my smelling nose dog and my parking space! I have Anomsia, ya know.)
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To: dcnd9
Getting pregnant/having a baby.... is okay to say!!

LOL, well, you are in the ball park now, but that is still not exactly what I had in mind.

131 posted on 02/11/2005 9:37:25 AM PST by Mark17
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To: Mark17

Thanks!


132 posted on 02/11/2005 9:37:34 AM PST by dcnd9
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To: najida
5) We handle being alone better

Huh? None of the women I know. Those that are alone tend to be bitter, or not really alone. I've met men who are alone and happy, but very few women who are.

133 posted on 02/11/2005 9:49:24 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: television is just wrong

(s)How DARE you use the vulgar profanity of the four letter words, mother and father. Those are disgusting words!(/s)


134 posted on 02/11/2005 9:51:06 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Men and women are just different.

Now THERE'S a thought! It's called specialization and Desmond Morris's statement in the article is closest to the truth IMO. Men developed quick responses and decisiveness to deal with attacks from animals, other tribes, hunting and other external dangers, etc. Women had to deal with an entirely different and more subtle set of tasks that required other types of mental specialization. One is not superior to the other -- just different. And both are still required for marriage and family stability, including child-rearing. Which of course is why the feminazis get so upset and try to deny reality.

135 posted on 02/11/2005 9:52:03 AM PST by Bernard Marx (Don't make the mistake of interpreting my Civility as Servility)
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To: Redcloak

Puleeessseeee. feed her!!!


136 posted on 02/11/2005 9:52:46 AM PST by PaRebel (Visualize Whirled Peas!)
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To: presidio9

Hey,

I thought that we, of the male persuasion, were slack-jawed knuckle-draggers and that when we weren't thinking of either sex, or hunting/fishing/sports, etc. we had crickets chirping in our collective brain-casings.

Sheesh.


137 posted on 02/11/2005 9:54:24 AM PST by roaddog727 (The marginal propensity to save is 1 minus the marginal propensity to consume.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

And unfortunately, we only have enough blood to supply one organ at a time.


138 posted on 02/11/2005 9:54:28 AM PST by Richard Kimball (It was a joke. You know, humor. Like the funny kind. Only different.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
And are able to use both sides of the brain at the same time while you BOYS can only use 1 side

Not true. But you're right about the color blindness thing.

139 posted on 02/11/2005 9:55:54 AM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Richard Kimball

Sex and a sandwich. Full stop.


140 posted on 02/11/2005 9:56:50 AM PST by PaRebel (Visualize Whirled Peas!)
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