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Males slow to realise 'men are quick thinkers' claim could offend
The Australian ^ | February 07, 2005 | Roger Dobson and Will Iredale

Posted on 02/11/2005 6:20:56 AM PST by presidio9

BOYS may be outperformed by girls at school but there is a glimmer of hope for them. Researchers claim to have found scientific proof that men can think faster than women.

Their study found that men's brain cells could transmit nerve impulses faster than women's – potentially giving males the intellectual edge.

The claim will add fuel to the debate recently triggered by Larry Summers, the president of Harvard University, who challenged the prevailing wisdom when he suggested women were innately less able than men in subjects such as maths and science.

The new study is likely to prompt similar anger. This weekend, the intellectual credentials of the researchers – all male – were themselves already being challenged by other eminent neurologists. In the study, scientists measured nerve conduction velocity, the speed at which messages passed through and between brain cells.

Other studies have suggested the speed of such impulses is linked to intelligence, drawing parallels with computers, where faster processors result in more power to carry out tasks quickly.

The latest paper, to be published shortly in the academic journal Intelligence, will say: "Males had four faster NCVs than females. This very significant sex difference in all test conditions in favour of males was most unexpected."

Under the research, scientists carried out investigations on 186 male and 201 female Canadian students, who were subjected to a battery of cognitive tests to assess their intelligence and other mental skills.

Researchers also measured the length of their subjects' heads to estimate the distance impulses would have to travel from the eye to the primary visual cortex, which interprets what someone is seeing.

Then they used electrodes to measure how long it took for an image flashed in front of the eye to send an impulse back to the visual cortex.

Professor Edward Reed, a zoologist at Toronto University, and Philip Vernon and Andrew Johnson, psychologists at the University of Western Ontario, found the impulses were speeding through men's brains faster than through women's. They suggest this is because the nerves in men's brains have a slightly thicker coating of myelin, a fatty material which protects the nerves and improves conductivity.

The report concludes: "We find that males have four faster NCVs than females with each of the three test conditions, probably due to their faster increase of white matter in the brain during adolescence."

The researchers appear to have realised only recently that such conclusions could prove political and controversial. This weekend all three were refusing to comment on their findings although Vernon said he would consider replying to emails.

It has long been clear that men's and women's brains do have important differences and each tends to perform certain tasks slightly better than the other. For example, some studies suggest men have better spatial skills, while women may be more emotionally aware and verbally fluent.

However, most experts point out that the differences are small compared with the similarities and that there is far more variation between individuals than genders.

Bruce Burns, assistant professor in the department of psychology at Michigan State University, conducted a study of chess players, suggesting those who were quicker thinkers were likely to make better moves.

He said: "There is controversy about sex difference but there seems to be a fair amount of agreement that men do tend to have better visual spatial skills. However, I am not sure we can say that makes them more intelligent."

Desmond Morris, the social anthropologist and zoologist, said evolutionary pressures were likely to have given men and women slightly different skills. "Perhaps men's better visual responses came from having to hunt animals while women developed personal skills from child-rearing and co-operating to grow or gather plants," he said.

However, others reject such simple analyses, comparing the methods of the Canadian research to phrenology, a discredited Victorian science which attempted to link intelligence, creativity and other mental faculties to the size and shape of people's skulls.

Professor Steven Rose, director of the brain and behaviour research group at Britain's Open University, said previous studies suggested no difference in decision-making between men and women. "It is true that men and women use different parts of the brain for similar tasks but the time taken to complete the tasks is identical."

Bea Campbell, the feminist writer and historian, also questioned the findings. "The distribution of intelligence is much the same for all genders and all races," she said. "Our experience and common sense tells us that the quest to prove one or another biological group is brainier than the other is really a vain exercise."


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To: LizardQueen
My big issue with all of these brain studies is that they cause gross generalizations out in the non-scientific populace that end up unnecessarily discouraging people from trying things.

It's a continual battle between that, and the claims of bias or prejudice being the only reason there aren't as many of this group as that group in a particular occupation.

101 posted on 02/11/2005 8:44:17 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
I don't want to see female firefighters. If I was in a burning building and I saw a little woman my size coming to save me I'd freak out.

That's not simply gender, that's throwing away objective requirements for political reasons. If you've got a woman who can carry a 300 lb person...great. ...As long as there are enough of them so that their very rarity isn't a problem.

102 posted on 02/11/2005 8:48:36 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: MonroeDNA
"The distribution of intelligence is much the same for all genders and all races..." Not true.

Heck, even the difference in intelligence between immigrants and their children is substantial...and that difference varies from race to race.

103 posted on 02/11/2005 8:51:05 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: presidio9

Men and women are different and that's okay!

They are still equal.

For some reason this concept baffles many people.

Why?


104 posted on 02/11/2005 8:53:00 AM PST by dcnd9
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Aside from everything else here, 104 responses, and not one person has mentioned the ONE advantage women have, that we can't do a thing about. Simply amazing.
105 posted on 02/11/2005 9:04:57 AM PST by Mark17
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Wat wud u due wifout us?


106 posted on 02/11/2005 9:08:33 AM PST by PaRebel (Visualize Whirled Peas!)
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To: dcnd9

equal? what's that s'posed to mean?


107 posted on 02/11/2005 9:09:52 AM PST by PaRebel (Visualize Whirled Peas!)
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To: PaRebel
Wat wud u due wifout us?

Get a good night's sleep? ;)

108 posted on 02/11/2005 9:10:33 AM PST by najida (Where is my smelling nose dog and my parking space! I have Anomsia, ya know.)
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To: Mark17

And that advantage is what? ;)


109 posted on 02/11/2005 9:12:26 AM PST by najida (Where is my smelling nose dog and my parking space! I have Anomsia, ya know.)
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To: presidio9

so will the woman who suffered from the vapors at the notion men and women are different be appologizing to the Harvard President?

Only a feminist would turn an amusing ha ha weak science story into a MORAL OUTRAGE DE JOUR! That the PCnazi's for you.


110 posted on 02/11/2005 9:14:42 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: PaRebel



What would I do without men?


Well I wouldn't be able to flirt my way into getting stuff for free.




111 posted on 02/11/2005 9:15:55 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: longtermmemmory



The worse part was, she went ranting and raving and huffing and puffing like only a woman would do.

That's feminism for you.


112 posted on 02/11/2005 9:16:44 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

And I would have to use a ladder to get stuff off the top shelf.


113 posted on 02/11/2005 9:17:17 AM PST by najida (Where is my smelling nose dog and my parking space! I have Anomsia, ya know.)
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To: lepton


True, if the woman can bench like a man.

If the woman was small like me, I'd take my chances jumping out the window.




114 posted on 02/11/2005 9:17:51 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: natewill
Men are better, and you just proved it!

Shaddup, you'll scare her off. B^)

115 posted on 02/11/2005 9:18:04 AM PST by Incandesia (Please don't eat the Newbie)
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To: presidio9
...men can think faster than women.

It depends upon what type of information we're processing. Some things get worked on faster than others...

...visual items, in particular, whiz right through the ol' noggin!

116 posted on 02/11/2005 9:18:09 AM PST by Redcloak (More cleverly arranged 1's and 0's)
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To: najida



Oh, and who would open jars for us?!


117 posted on 02/11/2005 9:18:27 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Exactly! And who would help us flip the mattress every 3 months?


118 posted on 02/11/2005 9:19:54 AM PST by najida (Where is my smelling nose dog and my parking space! I have Anomsia, ya know.)
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To: Mark17
ADVANTAGES WOMEN HAVE OVER MEN

1) We are able to see more shades of red
2) We are better communicators
3) We are better able to multitask
4) We are more Detail oriented
119 posted on 02/11/2005 9:20:16 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: najida


That's all they're good for! haha


120 posted on 02/11/2005 9:20:41 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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