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National ID Cards Coming Up For A Vote This Week
Gun Owner of America ^ | February 9, 2005 | Larry Pratt

Posted on 02/09/2005 11:36:18 AM PST by kimber

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Is this still the United States? You just have to wonder what is going on in the glass dome in Washington.
1 posted on 02/09/2005 11:36:18 AM PST by kimber
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2 posted on 02/09/2005 11:38:38 AM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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Can someone add me to the "banglist"??

National ID cards eh? So we get open borders and national ID cards? Is this 2005 or 1984?


3 posted on 02/09/2005 11:39:56 AM PST by BootsOfEscaping
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To: kimber
Your papers .... comrade ....

It looks like we lost ....

4 posted on 02/09/2005 11:42:50 AM PST by Yasotay
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"Since you need a driver's license to purchase a gun from a dealer"
Won't stop the bad guys from getting guns from sources other than dealers.

IMHO, we already have an at-least pseudo national id card - it's call a social security card.
5 posted on 02/09/2005 11:45:21 AM PST by bigdblogman
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To: kimber

This is the project that the ex-kgb generals in the Dept. of Homeland Security were "advising" on. Yevgeny Primakov laughingly commented the they've designed a system of internal passports for the US that is more restrictive than the old Soviet Union.


6 posted on 02/09/2005 11:45:27 AM PST by dljordan
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I'll probably be flamed but what is a good alternative to this type of thing? State ID's/Drivers Licenses certainly don't work. IMO this, or something quite like it, that is effective, is needed. The current situation is not satisfactory.

What is the difference between this and the existing individual Social Security Number except that something like this might actually be effective and might provide some protection against so-called 'Identity Theft' as well as insuring some national standard in identifying individuals.

BTW I am mindful of the serious potential for misuse and would applaud efforts to curtail such.

Fire away!

7 posted on 02/09/2005 11:45:30 AM PST by drt1
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8 posted on 02/09/2005 11:45:47 AM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: BootsOfEscaping

We already have National ID cards...it's called "Social Security Card/number"


9 posted on 02/09/2005 11:45:53 AM PST by Axelsrd
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To: kimber

If people think this through, ID cards are the ONLY hope against immigration and voter fraud. No big deal, IMO.


10 posted on 02/09/2005 11:45:57 AM PST by tkathy (Tyranny breeds terrorism. Freedom breeds peace.)
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You know, it just makes more sense to ID the people who need to be ID'd. For instance, a citizen of another nation wants to enter the U.S. Okay, photo ID them and give them an ID that has a sensor strip that can be monitored by devices that we place nearly everywhere.

As long as that person's ID is moving, we know they are using it. When it stops moving for a 48 hour period, you know who needs to be picked up for non-compliance.

Even if they are not carrying their ID, the INS database has that person's face fingerprints and known contacts in it.

An alert similar to an amber alert would be launched, that person picked up within days.

If a person overstayed their visa, their ID would provide their location instantaniously. If they had stopped using it, they'd have already been picked up, or could be within days.

I want laws that affect non-citizens. Leave us citizens the hell alone. We're obeying the laws of our nation and should be none of the government's GD business.


11 posted on 02/09/2005 11:46:55 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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Just wait until they make you put a microchip in your forehead or forearm. Then they can trace you no matter where you go. You won't be able to buy or sell without it. Sound familiar? It should. It's scriptural.


12 posted on 02/09/2005 11:48:13 AM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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The night is dark. On a lonely street corner stands a man wearing an overcoat...a person approaches. The man in the overcoat says..."Passport, $100, birth certificate, $200, driver license, $500, social security card, $150, and a new offering...National ID card, $1000."


13 posted on 02/09/2005 11:51:18 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: kimber
Yes it is,"still the United States" BUT IT IS NOT

The United States of America. Two distinct Different legal entities.

Hasn't been for many years and was done all very legally. Don't know the History of your country, now you didn't expect them to teach you what they've done to you by what they've taken away, did you?
14 posted on 02/09/2005 11:51:28 AM PST by OldSgt. (USMC, Nam Vet, HMM-165)
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Our borders are wide open floodgates. Our Citizens are treated as chattel and the politicians do whatever they want while the liberals whittle down our country. What is wrong with this picture?

I have a great idea, why don't we just bar code every Citizen and track their data? (sarcasm)

There's nothing like giving up liberty for some temporary security.


15 posted on 02/09/2005 11:51:36 AM PST by Bald Eagle777 (The Chinese military is the opposition force. Traitors at home aid and abet them.)
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16 posted on 02/09/2005 11:51:59 AM PST by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: tkathy

The card itself is no big deal...it's the chip, and whatever info that is on it, that is the big deal. I doubt the average citizen will have equipment that can read what is actually on this chip.


17 posted on 02/09/2005 11:58:02 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: DoughtyOne

Agreed.


18 posted on 02/09/2005 11:58:48 AM PST by Bald Eagle777 (The Chinese military is the opposition force. Traitors at home aid and abet them.)
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To: kimber
I like Larry Pratt and GOA, but, I can find nothing in the Constitution of these Untied States that prohibits a National ID Card.

But...

19 posted on 02/09/2005 11:59:37 AM PST by newsgatherer
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To: kimber

I already have mine!

Semper Fi,
Kelly


20 posted on 02/09/2005 11:59:48 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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