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Why We Must Lose This War (Libs Finally Find Their True Message)
The Detroit Metro News ^ | 2.9.05 | Jack Lessenberry

Posted on 02/09/2005 10:51:50 AM PST by gopwinsin04

'The United States needs to lose this war in Iraq as soon as possible. Even more urgently, the whole world needs the United States to lose the war in Iraq.'

Author Gwynne Dyer explains how we havent grasped that the world has changed, that we aren't living in our old superpower world anymore, one in which we are the leader of the forces of light against the evil dark powers of communism.

Nor are we, in fact, even a military superpower in the way we like to think we are; in reality, our military machine can only be used by weak countries.

As he notes, 'War with a serious opponent would lead to a level of American casualties that the US public would not tolerate for long.

Dr. Dyer was born during World War II and has served in the US Navy as well as Canada and Great Britain's. He has university degrees from all three countries and a Ph.D. in miliary and Middle Eastern history.

(Excerpt) Read more at metrotimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antiamericanism; dyer; gwynnedyer; iraq; moonbatdyer; pantload; traitor
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To: doug from upland

Big time!


21 posted on 02/09/2005 11:02:57 AM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04
Besides, if the Social Security system needs more money, there’s a simple solution: “Remove the cap.” Currently, Social Security deductions are taken from only the first $90,000 a worker makes each year. Those few who make more, like Michael Jordan and George W. Bush, can afford to keep paying.

Never trust someone who says they have a simple solution to a complex system. Once again, Mr. Lessenberry, social secutity is paid by employees and employers. If you remove the cap, you will raise the burdon on businesses. They will either compensate for that by cutting wages or raising prices. So using your "simple solution" will contibute to inflation and higher unemployment. Great idea, jackhole.

22 posted on 02/09/2005 11:03:54 AM PST by JCRoberts
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To: CSM

I tried to read it, but all I could decipher was "blah, blah, blah, blah".


23 posted on 02/09/2005 11:04:57 AM PST by wmichgrad ("The man is insane. He has lost his mind" Rush Limbaugh 1/28/05 re: Sen. Kennedy's remarks on Iraq)
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To: ladtx

if we had that huge of a war against a so called seious opponent, then it would be if we were attacked......and like you said.....we did in months what the then Soviets couldn't do in ten years......regular armies and navies are easier to fight then this cowardly terrorist crap


24 posted on 02/09/2005 11:06:50 AM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: TXBSAFH

Extra sugar in the dims Kool Aid this week it seems..


25 posted on 02/09/2005 11:06:55 AM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: wmichgrad

Well, you did better than me, all I could decifer was "cluck, cluck, cluck, cluck...."


26 posted on 02/09/2005 11:07:12 AM PST by CSM ("I just started shooting," said Gloria Doster, 56. "I was trying to blow his brains out ....")
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To: gopwinsin04
He has university degrees from all three countries too, and a Ph.D. in military and Middle Eastern history…

…the author takes on the most frightening topic of all — the real condition of the American economy, which is now totally dependent on foreign investment.

Oh, so being a Ph.D. in Middle Eastern History makes him an economic expert? Obviously he is a crackpot, but helpful that he describes clearly the agenda that is supposed to stay under wraps.

27 posted on 02/09/2005 11:07:26 AM PST by Plutarch
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To: gopwinsin04

Yep.

The only thing he didn't blame stuff on was the alien mother-ship remotely controlling his head. Needs a tin foil hat, he does.


28 posted on 02/09/2005 11:07:54 AM PST by joedelta
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To: pissant

Dr. Dyer probably still wishes the USSR was up and running, he could always emigrate to Cuba or China..


29 posted on 02/09/2005 11:08:35 AM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: NorCalRepub
...regular armies and navies are easier to fight then this cowardly terrorist crap

Plus the fact that we now have the most battle-tested and experienced military in the world.

30 posted on 02/09/2005 11:10:10 AM PST by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: gopwinsin04

Yea, we need to lose. That way the fine people of Iraq can go back to enjoying the right to be put in a plastic shredder or being blown up by Muslim fanatics.

Idiot. Regardless of 'degrees' from 3 countries. Idiot.


31 posted on 02/09/2005 11:10:22 AM PST by spodefly (Yo, homey ... Is that my briefcase?)
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To: joedelta

32 posted on 02/09/2005 11:11:06 AM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04
Dyer is only mourning the death of his own fantasy world order in which the UN provided collective security and international law was universally respected. It was never the case and it seems sillier by the day in retrospect.

The world hasn't actually changed much - it's still the grubby, ruthless, cynical, lawless, violent place that it was even before human vanity chose to illustrate it otherwise. If, as Dyer does, you have the luxury of sitting in a warm office in a safe country and you squint just right, you see no difference between a Mugabe and a Bush. That does not mean that there isn't such a difference, only that through a combination of pig-headedness and ideology that you can't see one.

33 posted on 02/09/2005 11:13:22 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

The UN sure did a great job with the USSR while Joe Stalin was murdering 50 million of its citizens..


34 posted on 02/09/2005 11:14:59 AM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04
Nor are we, in fact, even a military superpower in the way we like to think we are; in reality, our military machine can only be used by weak countries.

What's this "we" sh!t?

35 posted on 02/09/2005 11:17:41 AM PST by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket???)
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To: mowkeka

LOL


36 posted on 02/09/2005 11:18:05 AM PST by pissant
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To: gopwinsin04

ROFL!


37 posted on 02/09/2005 11:19:47 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Snickersnee

'we'=lib morons who have been drinking the Kool Aide.


38 posted on 02/09/2005 11:19:52 AM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04

And where exactly was the BARF ALERT for this thread?
Just so everyones knows, the MetroTimes is a far left liberal rag which is distributed FREE around the area.
Good paper if your looking for classified which read "transvestites looking for couples or singles for fun and adventure"


39 posted on 02/09/2005 11:30:39 AM PST by Moleman
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To: gopwinsin04

I love how people get so down on the capabilities of the US military, despite the fact that the US has like what, 30 more aircraft carriers than any other nation in the world (or even the entire world combined? I don't know exactly, but I bet I'm pretty close). 'Nuff said.


40 posted on 02/09/2005 11:31:41 AM PST by Caged in Canuckistan (A message from Canada: GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!)
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