Posted on 02/08/2005 10:48:57 PM PST by ainitfunny
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Yahoo! News News Home - Help AFP CIA renditions of terror suspects are 'out of control:' report
Sun Feb 6, 5:57 PM ET
WASHINGTON (AFP) - The Central Intelligence Agency (news - web sites)'s 'rendition' of suspected terrorists has spiralled 'out of control' according to a former FBI (news - web sites) agent, cited in a report which examined how CIA (news - web sites) detainees are spirited to states suspected of using torture.
Michael Scheuer a former CIA counterterrorism agent told The New Yorker magazine "all we've done is create a nightmare," with regard to the top secret practice of renditions.
In an article titled 'Outsourcing Torture' due to hit newsstands this week, the magazine claims suspects, sometimes picked up by the CIA, are often flown to Egypt, Morocco, Syria and Jordan, "each of which is known to use torture in interrogations."
The report said suspects are given few, if any, legal protections.
Despite US laws that ban America from expelling or extraditing individuals to countries where torture occurs, Scott Horton -- an expert on international law who has examined CIA renditions -- estimates that 150 people have been picked up in the CIA dragnet since 2001.
The New Yorker report said that suspects in Europe, Africa, Asia and the Middle East "have been abducted by hooded or masked American agents" and then sometimes forced onto a white Gulfstream V jet.
The jet -- marked on its tail by the code N379P which has recently been changed to N8068V -- "has been registered to a series of dummy American corporations ... (and) has clearance to land at US military bases," it said.
Maher Arar was arrested in 2002 by US officials at John F. Kennedy airport and then claims he was put on a "executive jet" which flew him to Amman, Jordan, before he was driven to Syria.
Arar says he was tortured in Syria and told his interrogators anything they wanted due to the beatings He was released without charge in 2003 and is suing the US government for his mistreatment.
He claims that the crew onboard the Gulfstream identified themselves as "the Special Removal Unit" during radio communications on his flight to Jordan.
"The most common destinations for rendered suspects are Egypt, Morocco, Syria and Jordan, all of which have been cited for human rights violations by the (US) State Department," the report said.
By holding detainees without counsel or charges of wrongdoing, the administration of US President George W. Bush (news - web sites) "has jeopardized its chances of convicting hundreds of suspected terrorists, or even of using them as witnesses in almost any court in the world," the report said.
The article cited Dan Coleman, an ex Federal Bureau of Investigation counterterrorism expert who retired in July 2003.
Coleman told The New Yorker that torture "has become bureaucratized," by the Bush administration, and that the practice of renditions is "out of control."
Scheuer said there had been a legal process underlying early renditions, but as more suspects were rounded up following the September 11, 2001, attacks, "all we've done is create a nightmare."
Abductees are effectively classified as "illegal enemy combatants," by the US government, which is how it also classifies the estimated 550 'war on terror' detainees held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
Such a classifiction, the US argues, exempts such detainees from the protections of the Geneva Conventions, part of which govern the treatment of prisoners.
The report also cited the former British Ambassador to Uzbekistan, Craig Murray, as saying Washington has accepted intelligence from Uzkbekistan that was "largely rubbish."
[B]The ambassador claims to know of at least three individuals rendered to Uzbekistan by the United States, where cases of the authorities boiling prisoners' body parts have been documented.[/B]
Washington has admitted it is holding some suspects, including top Al-Qaeda operative Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, but it does not say where he is detained.
Mohammed has reportedly been "water boarded" during interrogations: So called 'water boarding' refers to a practice whereby a detainee is bound and immersed in water until he nearly drowns.
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It's put out by the French. They really do love us. They just have a peculiar way of showing it.
AN idiot wrote this stuff, by putting Syria in they lost any credability.
He is Anonymous.
You've been trolling for a long time and it ain't funny.
It's a jungle out there.
Damn straight.
A nightmare....
Sleep well, Osama.
This POS is promoting his book from last year. From Google:
Imperial Hubris: Why the West is Losing the War on Terror by MICHAEL SCHEUER (available on Amazon)
I'd link but I don't want the jerk to get any more hits or sales than he might otherwise get.
Maybe the book is about to be remaindered.
How could a detainee know he was forced onto a white gulfstream when he's stuffed inside a burlap bag?
You get a little perspective if you remember all the times we have demanded that someone caught elsewhere be handed over to the USA.
Sssshhhhh.....Quiet everyone........
I hear the cries for impeachment starting in the distance.
Gosh, is there some place I can send a donation to help fund the Removal Unit?
I agree. All this talk confirms that things are happening in the shadows that we don't need to hear about or even know about. The so-called "war on terror", actually the war for our survival against islam, has two phases - visible, in Afghanistan and Iraq - and invisible, all over the world. I believe there is "wet work" being done all over the globe, sort of a modern day Phoenix Program. Our folks very likely are working with Mossad and other intelligence outfits quietly. SFOD Delta and NSWDG operators tasked to hybrid CIA units are likely very busy. This G5 is part of it, and it is necessary.
B. Robespierre attacked his fellow Frenchmen- you're comparing apples to string beans.
C. Robespieere's country was not under attack by foreign Islamofascists. D. Robespierre did not deport invading noncitizens back to their home countries WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE BELONGED, he was putting his fellow Frenchmen under the guillotine in order to remove their little heads. Get a grip.
E. Robespierre did not find his victims in corresponding about and in possession of information about poisoning water supplies, making bombs, etc. He did not find them in possession of materials designed to kill as many people as possible. He did not find them trading videos of people they had decapitated, they were not loudly confessing their intent to slaughter all infidels or proclaiming their loyalty to a religious extremist mass murderer, and so on.
F. If you're comparing the US to France you really do need to take your own advice and spend more time with your head immersed in a history book.
So if these top-secret abduction agents were hooded or masked, how did our source(s) know they were American? Did their cowboy boots give them away?
Scheuer is associated in vrious articles with Peter Bergen and Vincent Cannistraro- Clintonoids.
1996 - 1999 : ("ANONYMOUS") "...the Times identified "Mike" via Coll’s book as a 22-year CIA veteran who ran the Counterterrorist Center’s bin Laden station (code-named "Alec") from 1996 to 1999"
Do people really believe the war on terror is fought by holding tea parties with HAMAS or Hezbollah suspects and inviting them to come clean and stop what they are doing?
Every country on this planet has security services that conduct black Ops, all with deniable operators former intelligence or military personnel that freelance. The stuff of movies and books? Of course not, and why not these dark shadowy psychopathic killers bundle civilians into cars and execute them on TV with no more emotion that they would show over gutting a pig. I for one am glad there are people out there working for the Good side that are hunting them down with whatever it takes. It is not a job I would or could do but thank God someone has to look the devil in the eye and do this job, because we cannot, We empower those operators in the shadows to do these things and keep it out of the light, where the nice people with children and jobs live :-)
Anonymous, who published an analysis of al-Qaida last year called Through Our Enemies' Eyes, thinks it quite possible that another devastating strike against the US could come during the election campaign, not with the intention of changing the administration, as was the case in the Madrid bombing, but of keeping the same one in place. "I'm very sure they can't have a better administration for them than the one they have now," he said. "One way to keep the Republicans in power is to mount an attack that would rally the country around the president." The White House has yet to comment publicly on Imperial Hubris, which is due to be published on July 4... ----------http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1242639,00.html 34 posted on 06/23/2004 7:11:37 PM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
2002 : (ANONYMOUS'S BOOK "THROUGH OUR ENEMIES' EYES" IS PUBLISHED - CONTAINS COMPARISONS BETWEEN AL QAEDA AND KEY FIGURES IN THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION) Is this 2002 book written by the same Anonymous, I wonder? The title is: Through Our Enemies' Eyes: Osama Bin Laden, Radical Islam and the Future of America. Never heard of this one. Anyone read it?
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I've read it. It's full of comparisons between Osama Bin Laden and key players in the American Revolution. The author states he isn't comparing tactics, just motivation, but he's not subtle enough to pull off what he is really trying to do, justify UBL as a freedom fighter. At least, that's what I got out of it. Besides, the only reason I care to know what goes on in terrorist minds is so that we can kill them faster. I have absolutely no interest in knowing their motivation beyond that purpose. Do we really care why they cut off Paul Johnson's head?----- 32 posted on 06/19/2004 5:16:54 AM PDT by Casloy
Yep, I think its a troll also. I jusr got done reading its posts.
Anonymous does not try to veil his contempt for the Bush White House and its policies. His book describes the Iraq invasion as "an avaricious, premeditated, unprovoked war against a foe who posed no immediate threat."
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