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CONTROL OF THE FUTURE THROUGH CONTROL OF THE SCHOOLS
American Life League ^ | American Life League

Posted on 02/07/2005 3:46:06 AM PST by DaveTesla

The Humanist Mission of Our Schools.

I think the most important factor leading us to a
secular society has been the educational factor. Our
schools may not teach Johnny to read properly, but the
fact that Johnny is in school until he is 16 tends to
lead toward the elimination of religious superstition.
The average child now acquires a high school education,
and this militates against Adam and Eve and all other
myths of alleged history.

Humanist writer Paul Blanshard.

Extending State Control.

Humanists know that the future of our country rests
with our children. Therefore, in order to control the
future of our country, they must control the minds of
our children. And the easiest way to control our
children is to control the schools.

Radical left-wing writers, including Alexander Cockburn
and James Ridgeway, incessantly rail against
parental "interference" in schools, because, as they
openly acknowledge, "The Left can't survive politically
without a public school system to spread leftist
attitudes."[3]


The New Curriculum.

The future of any nation lies with its youth. So
corrupt them; since religion teaches moral virtue,
erode the churches and divert the young from religion.
Make them interested only in themselves. Get them
involved in drugs, alcohol, and sex. Get them addicted
to privileges and rights.

Vladimir Lenin's "Rule for Revolution" #1.

"Reading, writing and arithmetic" no longer figure
prominently in today's exotic public school curricula.
Children who attend public school will be compelled to
learn the following;

• that homosexuality is a perfectly acceptable
alternative lifestyle;
.....SNIP......

C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man.

(Excerpt) Read more at prolife.ath.cx:8000 ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: all; churchandstate; culturewars; education; educrats; indoctrination; pc; pspl
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To: DaveTesla; Born Conservative

Bump & Ping


61 posted on 02/07/2005 8:36:33 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: DaveTesla
Humanists know that the future of our country rests with our children. Therefore, in order to control the future of our country, they must control the minds of our children. And the easiest way to control our children is to control the schools.

Exactly correct.

62 posted on 02/07/2005 8:36:41 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Smartaleck
The difficulty with the argument is, just because one's personal experience with a school or school district isn't acceptable doesn't mean that ALL public schools are bad.

Actually, all public schools are fundamentally flawed in such a way that if they are not currently bad, they are on the way to becoming so.

And consider this: We all understand that if, say for example, you send your children to a Catholic school, they will be exposed to some quantity of Catholic thinking...perhaps taught some ideas that are distinctively Catholic. Likewise, if you send your children to a Baptist school, they will be taught out of a Baptist worldview, and be exposed to some Baptist ideas. This principle holds true whether you send your children to school at a kibbutz, or to a madrassa.

So why are we surprised, then, when we send our children to government schools, they get exposed to the idea that government is the answer to everything?

63 posted on 02/07/2005 8:43:11 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Smartaleck

Of course it can be changed.

All we need to do is elect a new City Council and School Board, then throw collective bargaining for teachers out, then get a new Superintendant of Schools using our new power. Get him to agree to put hiring, firing, and curriculum back with the School Board. Then after we change our state government the rest will be easy!

The first steps to all this, freeing up communications by shortcutting the Old Media, is well underway.


64 posted on 02/07/2005 8:51:47 AM PST by Ender Wiggin
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To: cinives

"were taken over by the state for non-performance"

A nearby TX school was taken over not only for non-performance, but the school is broke due to mismanagement.

In a similar vein it has been shown that several schools probably cheated on statewide test. Several schools out of many thousand does not make the whole system bad.

I'm puzzled, where have I led you to believe I don't read? I dare say I read quite a bit more than most.

"Ever look at the IB (International Baccalaureate)"
If you don't like it, don't let your kids participate. Seems simple enough.

"That is more than anecdotal" Did you know PA has more Nat'l Merit Scholars than some other comparable size states in spite of your anecdotal experience?

"It's sponsored by the United Nations"
It's also sponsored by the US.



65 posted on 02/07/2005 9:19:43 AM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX ..."Dems have no ideas, no agenda, no solutions.")
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To: kittymyrib
...The government schools wouldn't last a month if every Christian family pulled their children out...

Bingo. This is how you fight this battle. Cut off the funding, and send your kids to a good private school or homeschool them.

No sense fighting the local school system for change. They are the symptom, not the disease. That good teacher your kid had in 1st grade will be nullified by the idiot he or she gets in the 2nd grade.

Vouchers are such a good and fair idea I can't believe we don't have them. We need to keep pushing our representatives on that issue.
66 posted on 02/07/2005 9:20:14 AM PST by planekT
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To: Oberon
"So why are we surprised, then, when we send our children to government schools, they get exposed to the idea that government is the answer to everything?"

Do you have evidence of this? Textbook or curriculum?
67 posted on 02/07/2005 9:21:48 AM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX ..."Dems have no ideas, no agenda, no solutions.")
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To: Ender Wiggin

"Of course it can be changed."

Old time Republicans in Texas are fond of saying
"I remember when we could meet in a closet" meaning there weren't very many. Now Republicans hold all statewide offices and most of Congress as well as sending the current president to DC.

Daunting as it may seem at times, things do change....just ask the former Sen. Daschole. LOL


68 posted on 02/07/2005 9:26:30 AM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX ..."Dems have no ideas, no agenda, no solutions.")
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To: Smartaleck
Do you have evidence of this? Textbook or curriculum?

Look here for what you seek...I doubt my testimony is of any value to you on this topic.

69 posted on 02/07/2005 9:30:47 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: planekT
Vouchers are such a good and fair idea I can't believe we don't have them. We need to keep pushing our representatives on that issue.

Actually, vouchers are a terrible idea, although I used to believe as you do on the matter. Vouchers will create a subclass of homeschoolers who don't care about education, and are in it only for the money. Next thing you know, there will come some well-justified calls for increased government oversight of homeschoolers, and eventually curriculum certification.

We don't want to go there. I'll gladly go on paying property tax, if it means I retain the right to educate my children as I see fit.

70 posted on 02/07/2005 9:35:19 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: planekT
Vouchers are such a good and fair idea I can't believe we don't have them. We need to keep pushing our representatives on that issue.

Actually, vouchers are a terrible idea, although I used to believe as you do on the matter. Vouchers will create a subclass of homeschoolers who don't care about education, and are in it only for the money. Next thing you know, there will come some well-justified calls for increased government oversight of homeschoolers, and eventually curriculum certification.

We don't want to go there. I'll gladly go on paying property tax, if it means I retain the right to educate my children as I see fit.

71 posted on 02/07/2005 9:35:28 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: DaveTesla
I was talking with a friend yesterday who once talked about homeschooling his kids. He decided not to homeschool because his kids are now getting some A's and B's. He is incorrectly assuming his kids are getting a good education because they get A's and B's.

I definitely recommend folks read The Underground History of American Education, by John Taylor Gatto. The back cover states:

[It] will take you on a journey into the background, philosophy, psychology, politics, and purposes of compulsion schooling. The most important book about schools you will ever read. It will open your eyes.
That last sentence is very true. It's an eye opener!
72 posted on 02/07/2005 9:45:16 AM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Smartaleck
When your kids do confront a homosexual what will their response be?
Why is this even an issue?
When did this even become an issue until the left decided
to use it to abuse and corrupt our children.

We should turn our children into sodomites so someone does not
get their feelings hurt?

"Reading, writing and arithmetic" no longer figure
prominently in today's exotic public school curricula.
Children who attend public school will be compelled to
learn the following;

• that homosexuality is a perfectly acceptable alternative
lifestyle; • that abortion is a matter to be decided not by the
church or by the state,
but solely by a woman and her physician;
• that Communism is merely another economic system that is
inherently superior to Capitalism in many ways, and which must
ultimately prevail;
• that the Christian religion has absolutely no place in
education, although
"New Age" and various African and Eastern religious
practices abound;
• that there are absolutely no concrete ethical or moral
rules, and that all
problems must be considered on a case-by-case basis
(the insidious ethical
relativism or "situational ethics");
• that there is really no good or evil, and that the
concept of "sin" is
outmoded;
• and that, above all else, the highest of all virtues are
compassion and
tolerance.

Yeah....
The Left is going to create Heaven on earth and everyone
is going to love one another just as soon
as they make us all stupid little slaves and
them the masters.


Babylon:
Creating Heaven on earth without GOD.
Just make them GOD.

Tell me you don't fall for this Babylon humanist BS.

My friend the only way your going to see heaven is to
grow old and die or Armageddon commences and the lord
returns.

When the left promises heaven run the other way,
because HELL is coming.
73 posted on 02/07/2005 9:51:01 AM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Oberon

Do you have evidence of this? Textbook or curriculum?

Where is the public school textbook or curriculum that says "the gov't is the solution to all problems"?

That book is about a Christian education. Having said that I looked at the classes offered as a "classical education" and my kids were exposed to all of them with perhaps the excepetion of of Bible study which I don't think is a public school teachers job anyway.

This is not to say that references and education about the Bible were not to be had just because it was a public school.


74 posted on 02/07/2005 9:56:03 AM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX ..."Dems have no ideas, no agenda, no solutions.")
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To: Oberon
So why are we surprised, then, when we send our children to government schools, they get exposed to the idea that government is the answer to everything?

Because the elitist's represent themselves as god's and Savior's.

Sorry Washington! The jobs already TAKEN!
75 posted on 02/07/2005 9:56:47 AM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Smartaleck
When your kids do confront a homosexual what will their response be?

Within the context of schools: At what age should kids confront a homosexual?

76 posted on 02/07/2005 10:01:15 AM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Smartaleck
It's called Babylon.
Read about this disaster in the book of Genesis.
Man trying to build heaven on earth by by
raising themselves up to the level of God's and Saviour's.
In the end they created hell.

See any similarity's?
77 posted on 02/07/2005 10:01:33 AM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Oberon

Weeeelll, now that could be a double edged sword. Good point. Yes, I'd like a rebate, but not with a lot of strings attatched.

For this family, it ain't about the money. It's about the kids. I wouldn't be opposed to the kids taking a reasonble standardized test to make sure they are learning. But just listen to the howl across the nation from teachers who think that testing kids to see if they are learning to read, write, add, subtract, multiply and divide is a bad idea and interferes with their teaching.

Good grief. If they aren't teaching the three R's, what they hell are they teaching?





78 posted on 02/07/2005 10:04:49 AM PST by planekT
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To: scripter

Great read.


79 posted on 02/07/2005 10:10:51 AM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Smartaleck; DaveTesla
The larger issue is whether schools have an obligation to protect students. Suppose the "victim" kids were Jews, no believers, would the school be obligated to protect them? Would it not be in the best intersts of all for kids to know something about the beliefs of non-bleiving Jews?

The schools (run by the unions) are not interested at all in the students, except as this post explains to imbue them with a "tolerance" for the left wing agenda. Including normalcy for the homosexual life style. What the teachers want most is more pay and less work.

I assume you mean to say that a different group, non-religious Jews for example are the victims of school bullys. So the school should tackle this by explaining the beliefs (few though they are) of the non-religious Jew in order to have the kids manefest tolerance for the secular Jews? Its the same answer: tell kids that bullying is against school policy. Expell kids who are agressive and commit crimes at school. Forget teaching "tolerance" for any group, social agendas are not a matter for the school, and teaching tolerance for homosexual, or love for your fellow man is not a job teachers are good at or want.

The left has used the schools for three generations to teach voting for democrats. Many parents were taught this in THEIR schools, which explains why they don't mind their kids attending diversity and multicultural training at the expense of reading and math.

80 posted on 02/07/2005 10:11:19 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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