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CONTROL OF THE FUTURE THROUGH CONTROL OF THE SCHOOLS
American Life League ^ | American Life League

Posted on 02/07/2005 3:46:06 AM PST by DaveTesla

The Humanist Mission of Our Schools.

I think the most important factor leading us to a
secular society has been the educational factor. Our
schools may not teach Johnny to read properly, but the
fact that Johnny is in school until he is 16 tends to
lead toward the elimination of religious superstition.
The average child now acquires a high school education,
and this militates against Adam and Eve and all other
myths of alleged history.

Humanist writer Paul Blanshard.

Extending State Control.

Humanists know that the future of our country rests
with our children. Therefore, in order to control the
future of our country, they must control the minds of
our children. And the easiest way to control our
children is to control the schools.

Radical left-wing writers, including Alexander Cockburn
and James Ridgeway, incessantly rail against
parental "interference" in schools, because, as they
openly acknowledge, "The Left can't survive politically
without a public school system to spread leftist
attitudes."[3]


The New Curriculum.

The future of any nation lies with its youth. So
corrupt them; since religion teaches moral virtue,
erode the churches and divert the young from religion.
Make them interested only in themselves. Get them
involved in drugs, alcohol, and sex. Get them addicted
to privileges and rights.

Vladimir Lenin's "Rule for Revolution" #1.

"Reading, writing and arithmetic" no longer figure
prominently in today's exotic public school curricula.
Children who attend public school will be compelled to
learn the following;

• that homosexuality is a perfectly acceptable
alternative lifestyle;
.....SNIP......

C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man.

(Excerpt) Read more at prolife.ath.cx:8000 ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: all; churchandstate; culturewars; education; educrats; indoctrination; pc; pspl
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To: DaveTesla

You are absolutely correct.

This shrink wholesale agrees with you.


21 posted on 02/07/2005 5:45:48 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: kittymyrib
Thank you!
My point



Radical left-wing writers, including Alexander Cockburn and James Ridgeway, incessantly rail against parental "interference" in schools, because, as they openly acknowledge, "The Left can't survive politically without a public school system to spread leftist attitudes."[3]
22 posted on 02/07/2005 5:49:27 AM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla
"Where you two guys been hiding?"

I, for one, wasn't hiding my kids at home as you advocate.

To be so vehement in your chastising of public schools you appear to be very weak of faith. IMHO
23 posted on 02/07/2005 6:09:34 AM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX ..."Dems have no ideas, no agenda, no solutions.")
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

"What happens to the kids that aren't home schooled?
That's up to each individual childs parents. The system is too corrupt to fix."

And the answer to the question is?


24 posted on 02/07/2005 6:10:58 AM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX ..."Dems have no ideas, no agenda, no solutions.")
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To: Smartaleck

The answer is, what happens to the children not homeschooled depends on their parents.

Becky


25 posted on 02/07/2005 6:13:01 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (aka: Horselifter, Mackdaddy:)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

"Are you still involved since your kids graduated?"

On a different level yes.

Too, I have many friends who are public school teachers. They express many of the same frustrations with the "system" that are posited here....some try to make changes from within, others sit around talking about it.


26 posted on 02/07/2005 6:15:03 AM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX ..."Dems have no ideas, no agenda, no solutions.")
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To: Smartaleck

Do you think the people that choose to HS are shirking a responsibility?

Becky


27 posted on 02/07/2005 6:20:55 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (aka: Horselifter, Mackdaddy:)
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To: Smartaleck; DaveTesla
This is a spiritual battle.

"For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood; but against principalities and power, against the rulers of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in the high places." Ephesians 6:12

28 posted on 02/07/2005 6:23:35 AM PST by murphE ("I ain't no physicist, but I know what matters." - Popeye)
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To: DaveTesla

"First I didn't make the mess in the first place."

I know that line. Right up there with "not my job."

Why would anyone in their right mind want to live in MA?


29 posted on 02/07/2005 6:26:10 AM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX ..."Dems have no ideas, no agenda, no solutions.")
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

"The answer is, what happens to the children not homeschooled depends on their parents."

Works for me. Unfortunatly some on here disagree. ;-)


30 posted on 02/07/2005 6:35:47 AM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX ..."Dems have no ideas, no agenda, no solutions.")
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To: Smartaleck

One answer - read the book "Class Warfare" by Martin Rochester, a parent and college professor who lays it out very clearly how parents have the deck stacked against them, even when they are actively involved in every aspect of public education.

Then come back here and tell me how just joining the school board solves the problem.


31 posted on 02/07/2005 6:38:08 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

"Do you think the people that choose to HS are shirking a responsibility?"

Not as far as there own children are concerned.

Do you think the French are shirking their responsibilty when they tell us to go to hell when it comes to fighting terrorism around the world? We could stay home and just take care of our own I suppose?


32 posted on 02/07/2005 6:44:28 AM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX ..."Dems have no ideas, no agenda, no solutions.")
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To: Smartaleck

Just out of curiosity, let's talk about this:
suppose I agree that you are a responsible parent with kids in public school, sit down every night to oversee homework, pass on your values, mores and beliefs with a lot of quality family time.

Do you think this innoculates against cooperative (groupthink) learning, inflated grades, socialist textbooks, and the point of views pushed in state and national standards to which the teachers must adhere and the textbooks follow ? Even in 1st grade ? Are you with your kids 7 hours a day that they are under the influence of the teachers, curriculum, and school administrators ? No kids are subject to peer dependency ?

I don't. Those who resist are still stunted by inadequate curriculum, being held back in the name of the group, or finally, are pushed into accepting drugs (legal or otherwise)for being a nonconformist.

Yes, some do well but most sink. As a homeschooler, I don't have to undo what 7 hours a day does to my kid in public school, before my kid can go forward.


33 posted on 02/07/2005 6:46:19 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: murphE

"For our wrestling"

Pick your battles wisely.


34 posted on 02/07/2005 6:46:41 AM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX ..."Dems have no ideas, no agenda, no solutions.")
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To: mo
yeah...well they've been trying for 60 years...so far bad investment.

Do you know how far left the culture has moved in the last 60 years?

35 posted on 02/07/2005 6:48:33 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Smartaleck
Why not join the school board?

Because you'll be outnumbered by the entrenched bureacracy, most of whom oppose a non-values-oriented approach to education.

36 posted on 02/07/2005 6:50:00 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: DaveTesla

Government schools must be abolished
.


37 posted on 02/07/2005 6:50:01 AM PST by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: clee1
The best reason to homeschool.

I agree! I've been saying for years, "if you love your children you'll teach them yourself."

38 posted on 02/07/2005 6:55:02 AM PST by divulger
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To: cinives
"Do you think this inoculates against cooperative (groupthink)"

Your considered response is well appreciated. On the other hand the equally valid question is...how far will homeschooling and the "not have to undo" take them when they are no longer at home and meet the same realities you mention? Some will fare well or ok, others not so for they may be lacking in experience when confronted by the unknown.

Just as no two people are the same, there is no one way to educate.

It makes no difference that a child is "indoctrinated" by the public school or at home. What is critical is that a child learns the means to process information for themselves from a variety of views and sources and ultimately arrive at the "truths of life".

"One who does not fully know their opponents arguments does not truly know their own"
39 posted on 02/07/2005 6:56:28 AM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX ..."Dems have no ideas, no agenda, no solutions.")
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To: cinives

"read the book "Class Warfare""

I'd rather hear your experiences on the local school board, participation in precinct meetings, your election as a delegate to political conventions and other activist activities.


40 posted on 02/07/2005 6:59:45 AM PST by Smartaleck (Tom Delay TX ..."Dems have no ideas, no agenda, no solutions.")
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