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CONTROL OF THE FUTURE THROUGH CONTROL OF THE SCHOOLS
American Life League ^ | American Life League

Posted on 02/07/2005 3:46:06 AM PST by DaveTesla

The Humanist Mission of Our Schools.

I think the most important factor leading us to a
secular society has been the educational factor. Our
schools may not teach Johnny to read properly, but the
fact that Johnny is in school until he is 16 tends to
lead toward the elimination of religious superstition.
The average child now acquires a high school education,
and this militates against Adam and Eve and all other
myths of alleged history.

Humanist writer Paul Blanshard.

Extending State Control.

Humanists know that the future of our country rests
with our children. Therefore, in order to control the
future of our country, they must control the minds of
our children. And the easiest way to control our
children is to control the schools.

Radical left-wing writers, including Alexander Cockburn
and James Ridgeway, incessantly rail against
parental "interference" in schools, because, as they
openly acknowledge, "The Left can't survive politically
without a public school system to spread leftist
attitudes."[3]


The New Curriculum.

The future of any nation lies with its youth. So
corrupt them; since religion teaches moral virtue,
erode the churches and divert the young from religion.
Make them interested only in themselves. Get them
involved in drugs, alcohol, and sex. Get them addicted
to privileges and rights.

Vladimir Lenin's "Rule for Revolution" #1.

"Reading, writing and arithmetic" no longer figure
prominently in today's exotic public school curricula.
Children who attend public school will be compelled to
learn the following;

• that homosexuality is a perfectly acceptable
alternative lifestyle;
.....SNIP......

C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man.

(Excerpt) Read more at prolife.ath.cx:8000 ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: all; churchandstate; culturewars; education; educrats; indoctrination; pc; pspl
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To: webstersII; scripter
From your post (webstersII);
Separating School & State: How To Liberate American Families

"Indeed, Senator Edward M. Kennedy's office issued a paper
not long ago stating that the literacy rate in
Massachusetts has never been as high as it was before
compulsory schooling was instituted. Before 1850, when
Massachusetts became the first state in the United States
to force children to go to school, literacy was at 98
percent. When Kennedy's office released the paper, it was
91 percent."



Fascism and Communism (all methods of state control).
No wonder my ancestors ran away from Europe.

Need to find author's data.
If this is true......
181 posted on 02/07/2005 2:41:08 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: meadsjn
blame the parents are the ones who haven't yet tried.

Who would you say is to blame?

Public school "teachers" are not qualified to teach children whose IQ is above average.

Why are teachers not qualified? (rhetorical question:). Because they were educated to be teachers in the corrupt system. Vicious cycle.

Personally, I don't necessarily agree that "teachers" are not qualified. I believe there are a lot of good teachers out there. They do the best they can in a corrupt system, with a corrupt education.

Becky

182 posted on 02/07/2005 2:50:04 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (aka: Horselifter, Mackdaddy:)
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To: DaveTesla

How can teachers be better then the system that educated them? Why has the system gotten so bad?

Becky


183 posted on 02/07/2005 2:52:02 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (aka: Horselifter, Mackdaddy:)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

"How can teachers be better then the system that educated them?"

Not all education comes from a "system". Anyone who can read can enlighten themselves and has a door to all the wisdom of the world.


184 posted on 02/07/2005 3:23:42 PM PST by Smartaleck (CD "Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience")
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
The Leftist / communist's slowly infiltrated and took over
the higher educational systems.

This is all a throw back to the cold war.
The train derailed but there many still riding it.
Read David Horowitz's Radical Son.
It is the tell all of the communist controlled
educational system and the plot to take down our nation.
Written by a genuine Red Diaper Baby.
(Mother and father were communist collaborators.)

Click on Thumbnail
185 posted on 02/07/2005 3:27:43 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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Homosexual Agenda Ping.

Excellent thread. Lots of good points and comments.

If you want on/off the ping list see my profile page.

186 posted on 02/07/2005 3:32:49 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (''Go though life with a Bible in one hand and a Newspaper in the other" -- Billy Graham)
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To: scripter

Looking at your freeper web page it's obvious you have many references about homosexuality which might have furthered the discussion about that aspect of topic at hand. More so than read a book or I don't have time to answer.

Too, looking at many of your post yon FR you seem to be a rather one demensional fellow when it comes to the subject of homosexuality?

A wiser man than I noted "we become what we fear."

Have fun dude.


187 posted on 02/07/2005 3:33:22 PM PST by Smartaleck (CD "Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience")
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To: clee1

As a youngster, I never would have dreamed of home schooling.

Now, I help, a lot, the parents of kids who actually are pioneering this work.


188 posted on 02/07/2005 3:41:51 PM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: Smartaleck; All
Ah yes, standard accusation #42 - accuse 'em of being a homosexual. Gee, I've never heard that one before.

I'll repeat the question you keep dodging: At what age should kids, in school, confront homosexuals? For reference, see post 58.

189 posted on 02/07/2005 3:48:23 PM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

Hey, do you know if the contest is still ongoing about the first to be called a homosexual in a thread? In post 187 I was accused of being a homosexual... do I win anything or is the contest over?


190 posted on 02/07/2005 3:54:34 PM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
I believe there are a lot of good teachers out there. They do the best they can in a corrupt system, with a corrupt education.

You may be right, but since we don't see many of them step forward to expose the corruption to the taxpayers, to God, and to everybody else, it is difficult to differentiate the good teachers from the rank and file corrupted and perverse NEA members.

When teachers run for public office, as far too many eventually do, they just perpetuate the corruption from more influential positions. The whole setup needs to be scrapped, the money returned to the taxpayers, and let the parents make the decisions for their childrens' education.

191 posted on 02/07/2005 4:00:09 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: longtermmemmory

Anybody take note of or reference...

Education, which is codified as General Laws Chapter 71, Section 32A.

Sometimes referred to as the Parental Notification Law, § 32A requires each school committee to adopt and publish a policy by September 1, 1997 ensuring that *****parents and guardians are notified about any curriculum that primarily involves human sexual education or human sexuality issues, and permitting them to exempt their children from any portion of that curriculum without penalty.****

Schools are to make instructional materials for said curricula reasonably accessible to parents, guardians and others for inspection and review. A copy of § 32A is enclosed as Attachment 1.
http://www.doe.mass.edu/lawsregs/advisory/c7132adv.html

Other information on the subject of homosexuality and the MA Board of ED. may be seen here:
http://search.doe.mass.edu/default.asp?q=homosexuality&r=11


192 posted on 02/07/2005 4:10:50 PM PST by Smartaleck (CD "Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience")
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To: scripter
"I'll repeat the question you keep dodging: At what age should kids, in school, confront homosexuals?"

Why do they "***need*** to confront homosexuals" at all? I didn't advocate that anymore than I would advocate they "need to confront Jews" or or any other group different from themselves for that matter, so I'm not sure where you're question is coming from?

You may recall, but I'm beginning to have my doubts, the original question was "how will your kid react when they do meet.....?

You re-framed it in the proverbial "When did you stop beating your wife argument."

You assertions that there is an attempt to dodge is so Clintionesque, accuse someone of doing the very thing you're doing.

This doesn't advance the discussion at all and appears to be such that you described as the behavior of a troll.

I see the matter of homosexuality much like a matter of cursing. I didn't allow it in my house when my kids were small and tried to avoid it on from the TV.

But I'm also a realist enough to know that not all parents are that conscious of the issue and don't care what their kids say and don't set an example. Accordingly, it's pretty much inevitable that my kids would encounter someone with a trash mouth and I "educated" them accordingly.

A child educated and given information can react in an appropriate manner. Those left in the dark or shielded from society are left ignorant and their reaction may not be desirable. A parent has choices. They can educate themsleves, they can let the school do it or they can opt out of certain portions of education as stated in the MA school policies.
193 posted on 02/07/2005 4:43:49 PM PST by Smartaleck (CD "Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience")
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To: Smartaleck
You re-framed it in the proverbial "When did you stop beating your wife argument."

Um. No, I didn't. I asked you for clarification on your question (below) from post 58:

When your kids do confront a homosexual what will their response be?
This was my request for clarification in post 76:
Within the context of schools: At what age should kids confront a homosexual?
For some reason you, apparently, feel threatened by my request for clarification. Then in post 90 you said:
The subject should be framed in a broader context and age appropriate.
So I keep asking... what is that appropriage age? Since we're talking about school aged kids, is K-12 an appropriate age?

The question has always been: what school age range were you thinking when you asked: When your kids do confront a homosexual what will their response be? Is it K-12 or some other less inclusive range? And if so, what range?

194 posted on 02/07/2005 5:04:26 PM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter

Scripter, I think you're beating your head against a wall there. Might as well write off the time and effort.


195 posted on 02/07/2005 5:09:37 PM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Smartaleck
The ability to mentor and nurture such a kid is too often lacking or the teacher is so besieged with the BS from being in the education system they don't have time

I'm retired now, but when I worked I was quite dedicated to the kids, and athletic teams, and clubs. I was not a good union sole however and saw far too many teachers who went to work, held their classes, and left as soon as they could. They resisted hall and yard duty and supported the union because the union was supporting them. But kids who think for themselves at that age are very rare, and this is why its so bad to have a bunch of lefties who (1) convince the kids that they (the lefties) are smart and (2) convince the kids that anything republicans support is evil.

This sets up the concept that left wing ideas are the only ones that "smart" people believe in and that the lefties somehow "know" what is best for the poor, the middle class, the retired folk, ...

196 posted on 02/07/2005 5:14:16 PM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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197 posted on 02/07/2005 5:38:29 PM PST by Born Conservative (Those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself." - Richard Nixon)
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To: Oberon

It would appear so. Sometimes I just can't help but try to make it all a little more clear, but in this instance, that's apparently not going to make any difference.


198 posted on 02/07/2005 5:42:23 PM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: meadsjn
Wow, so you purposely insult every public school teacher on this forum? Nice!

I'll have you know that I teach in a public school and I do a fine job. I am a Christian women and I have not once compromised my beliefs. I have 2 pictures of President Bush in my classroom and had a Bush/Kerry sign on my car and my classroom door. My Bible sits on my desk and I have used Biblical stories many times in my classroom, as have other teachers in my school.

You on the other hand feel perfectly okay with tossing out bombshell statements designed to degrade and humiliate.

Who is the better example for children?

199 posted on 02/07/2005 5:44:14 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: Smartaleck


Better yet, why doesn't every parent exercise his/her choice on what his/her kids learn, or what values they have, or how important education is in the home, or help them with their homework, or work with the teacher, or help in the classroom, or volunteer for the PTA, or go to school board meetings, or ....you get the picture.


200 posted on 02/07/2005 5:45:25 PM PST by moog
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