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LIVE THREAD: WA State Court Hearing on Rossi/Gregoire Governors Race
KING5 TV ^

Posted on 02/04/2005 11:21:16 AM PST by SW6906

Live discussion of the hearings in Chelan County on Dems motions to dismiss the Rossi con test of the governors election. King5.com is streaming live!


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: christinethecommie; christinethecrook; christinethethief; democratscheat; electionfraud; fraudoire; gregoire; iseedeadpeople; kingcounty; notmygovernor; recount; revote; rossi; sovietofkingcounty; stealingelections; thefixwasin; theft; themostcorruptstate; votecriminals; voterobbers; votestealers; votetheft
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Once the election is voided I think there will be a lot of pressure on the legislature to get us a special election for Gov. I predict that Gregorie won't even run again. I think Owens, who will have been the acting Gov. will be the official candidate. Or maybe they will both run! (California Scenario?) No, they won't let that happen.


581 posted on 02/04/2005 5:44:09 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: Shermy
Yeah, but in reality what wronged loser would put up the big bucks when the only result is some election 2 years away?

One interested in the principle involved?

582 posted on 02/04/2005 5:44:46 PM PST by steveegg (The secret goal of lieberals - to ensure that no future generation can possibly equal theirs.)
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To: Shermy

What a day what a day !! Ding dong the witch is gone, witch is gone, ding dong the rat-tail'd witch is gone !!


583 posted on 02/04/2005 5:45:32 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: Shermy

"Yeah, but in reality what wronged loser would put up the big bucks when the only result is some election 2 years away?"

I'm with you Shermy. Yes, it'd be true that the alledged winner wouldn't be so, but the wronged loser (as you so aptly put it) wouldn't be, either. I don't understand why the aim is not to ascertain the correct result.


584 posted on 02/04/2005 5:48:30 PM PST by dfergu7477
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To: steveegg

I would think that, no matter how much I may disagree, she IS the certified governor and took the oath, and until the election contest reaches fruitation, any lawful act she takes as governor would be legitimate... I could be wrong, though...


585 posted on 02/04/2005 5:50:49 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (I'd like to find your inner child and kick its little ass)
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To: Shermy

One interested in the principle involved? One who actually cares about the integrity of the election process?


586 posted on 02/04/2005 5:51:21 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (I'd like to find your inner child and kick its little ass)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

It isn't as clear as one might think. Don't have time to look at it now, but on my first quick reading on the constitution, it doesn't cover this situation.


587 posted on 02/04/2005 5:52:10 PM PST by connectthedots
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To: ScottFromSpokane
"The bottom line is, if we win, we still petty much get our "revote."

Yes! isn't it great?

For those who think this has to be decided in the Supreme Court are wrong.(Of course when we win the Demo's will take it higher). This case is going forward in this court and if we prevail he will declare Gregroir NULL AND VOID then the Legislature will have to have another election.

John Carlson just said in the meantime we can keep gathering evidence and the one thing they have not gotten into so far is the illegal alien votes.

588 posted on 02/04/2005 5:54:40 PM PST by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: connectthedots
It isn't as clear as one might think. Don't have time to look at it now, but on my first quick reading on the constitution, it doesn't cover this situation.

Well, there are lots of scenarios that the constitution doesn't cover - however, it DOES cover vacancies in the Office of Governor. It's not like they specified how those vacancies were to occur - the writers couldn't concieve of every possible senario that leads to a vacancy. So, as far as they were concerned a vacancy is a vacancy, period, and it spells out how the vacancy is to be filled.

I don't see the need to make it any more complicated than it needs to be. :)

589 posted on 02/04/2005 5:54:45 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (I'd like to find your inner child and kick its little ass)
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To: Flyer
I hope this is the beginning of the end of the massive vote fraud the Left has done for decades.

Yes. They screwed up in the 2000 election when they tried to make an issue of voter "disenfrachisement", and they have exacerbated the problem in 2004. Now Republicans have every legitimate right to answer: "We too are extremely concerned about voter disenfranchisement. And vote fraud represents the disenfranchisement of legally legitimate voters. Thus we support and will insist upon a thorough inverstigation of vote fraud wherever it is suspected."

We all know who has benefited substantially from vote fraud for deacdes. IMO the Dims miscalculated by shining the spotlight on this issue. The Democrat Party opened the door, and the Republican Party should go after them with a vengence now.

590 posted on 02/04/2005 5:55:34 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (This just in from CBS: "There is no bias at CBS")
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To: Chad Fairbanks

If the court voids the election, the office does not become vacant. It was never filled by the election. The legal definition of 'Void' means it is as if it never happened in the first place. This would mean that any laws requiring the signature of a governor would be void once we have a legitimately elected governor.

Don't be surprised if Rossi makes this exact argument in the near future.


591 posted on 02/04/2005 6:02:55 PM PST by connectthedots
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To: connectthedots

So do you have an opinion on my strategy in #551?


592 posted on 02/04/2005 6:04:10 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

There is also a great argument that the election should be just between those who were on this past November ballot.


593 posted on 02/04/2005 6:04:42 PM PST by connectthedots
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To: Hank Rearden

i think the sooner we have a revote, the better. I think the judge got this part wrong. Don't be surprised if he changes his mind, especially since neither party briefed this issue yet.


594 posted on 02/04/2005 6:07:35 PM PST by connectthedots
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To: connectthedots
This would mean that any laws requiring the signature of a governor would be void once we have a legitimately elected governor.

Excellent point.

595 posted on 02/04/2005 6:09:57 PM PST by Vicki (Truth and Reality)
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To: connectthedots

Ok I had thought any judge would be stepping beyond their authority by 'ordering' a revote.

BUT I had thought if the judge were to set aside the election, to declare it null and void, that it would fall to the Rossi camp to investigate the illegal votes, how these votes actually fell. BUT that's impossible so I thought the case could have felons granted immunity for their testimony BUT that's a crazy idea, it doesn't cover all illegal votes and who could believe some of these felons anyway?

So I thought the Rossi camp is hosed!

BUT NO!!!

What can happen is the case goes forward, the dirty shenanigans of King County elections and others will be exposed, the election will be declared null and void, Gregoire will be vacating the Governor's office, the Governorship will remain vacant until a special election is held in November.

In the meantime the Lt. Governor will act as caretaker.

This set of developments would set the democrats back for a generation at least. It would show to them what the consequences are for their actions.


596 posted on 02/04/2005 6:10:25 PM PST by Hostage
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To: connectthedots

I don't see anything in the state constitution that spells that out. Good luck trying to keep people off the ballot, though. I don't see how that could happen if the law allows them to be on it.


597 posted on 02/04/2005 6:13:04 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (I'd like to find your inner child and kick its little ass)
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To: Spunky
Seems to me all the Judge is saying is that he doesn't have the right to call for a re-vote. The legislature does.
If it is ruled that Gregoire is out, the vacancy has to do with the "contest" of the election. The remedy would have to be a re-vote. What is the Election law when there is a contest? There would have to be a remedy, not just taking her out and saying there's a vacancy.

Mind you, I have no legal or constitutional background to make these definite pronouncements.
598 posted on 02/04/2005 6:13:10 PM PST by pieces of time
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To: ScottFromSpokane

Yes I think you are correct. The judge only said he does not the authority to order a revote. For otherwise he would have to set timelines and parameters for carrying out such a vote.

He can't run an election from his chambers.

So he hears the case, decides whether the election was valid or not, then vacate if necessary the office of Governor.

It is is then left to the state constitution to decide how ot fill the vacancy.

But of course the Gregocrats will spin it differently.


599 posted on 02/04/2005 6:15:21 PM PST by Hostage
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To: connectthedots

The part I don't get is How can a case move forward that will investigate the legality/illegality of votes, when the county auditors and canvassing boards have been removed from the suit?
It doesn't make sense.


600 posted on 02/04/2005 6:15:43 PM PST by djf
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