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(VA) Law would stop hubcap spinners
Virginia Gazette ^

Posted on 02/01/2005 2:15:57 PM PST by Sir Gawain

Law would stop hubcap spinners

By Bill Tolbert The Virginia Gazette

Published January 15, 2005

RICHMOND -- If you want rapper Xhibit and his buddies at West Coast Customs to “pimp” your ride with some phat spinning wheels, you better hurry.

Del. Bill Barlow (D-64th) has introduced an arcane bill that would prohibit wheel covers that give the illusion the wheels are moving while the vehicle is sitting still, or that the wheels are sitting still while the vehicle is actually moving.

Barlow addresses the wheel covers in HB 2390. According to the General Assembly website, the bill was awaiting assignment to a committee.

The “spinners,” as they're called, come as part of actual rims or as devices similar to hubcaps. The former can cost $800 to several thousand dollars for a set of four. The hubcap options run in the $50 range.

Spinners operate by ball bearings. As the vehicle picks up speed, the spinners begin to rotate. When the vehicle slows down and stops, the spinners continue for a while because of the ball bearings.

Why would Barlow, a sedate Smithfield attorney who represents Williamsburg and a part of James City, care about spinners?

He said a constituent from Isle of Wight asked him to introduce the bill because he was injured in a motorcycle accident and blamed it on spinners. Barlow said the man told him he was riding along the highway when he noticed a car ready to enter the roadway from the right.

As he got closer to the car, the man said he caught a glimpse of the spinner on the left front wheel and thought the vehicle was pulling out in front of him. The man told Barlow he swerved to avoid what he thought would be a collision and lost control of the cycle. As it turned out, the car was sitting still.

“He went into a skid, put down the motorcycle and sustained injuries,” Barlow explained. “He was very much upset about it.”

Until then, Barlow was unaware of any problems with spinners. He called it an “unusual” issue. “I have no idea how [the bill] will be received,” Barlow said. “It does seem to me it could be a safety concern if you don't know whether another vehicle is moving or not. You need to know that when you're driving.”

He's braced for some blowback. “Anytime you put a ban on something, it's going to be controversial,” Barlow admitted. “But I assume these serve no useful purpose other than appearance. And if they're creating a dangerous situation, maybe we need to look at that.”


TOPICS: Government; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: autoshop; donutwatch; govwatch; nannystate; noseyprk; spinners; vageneralassembly; virginia
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Another Dim busybody. I hate politicians.
1 posted on 02/01/2005 2:15:58 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Sir Gawain
Del. Bill Barlow (D-64th) has introduced an arcane bill that would prohibit wheel covers that give the illusion the wheels are moving while the vehicle is sitting still, or that the wheels are sitting still while the vehicle is actually moving.

Such a pressing social issue. I'm glad these dems are there to protect us ...

They really need to get off the planet.

2 posted on 02/01/2005 2:17:28 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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To: Sir Gawain

Wouldn't ever have these on my SUV, but why in the blue thunder does this need to be legislated? Do these jokers do nothing but sit around in their office and think of new ways to restrict freedom in America!


3 posted on 02/01/2005 2:18:30 PM PST by Obadiah
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To: Sir Gawain

My tax dollars at work. Sheesh. Oh, and he's a lawyer, imagine that. The stupid things people want to pass laws over nowadays.

Wait, he's a Democrat, isn't this being racist, going after the bling-bling rollin-on-dubs contingent like this? Shouldn't he be all tolerant and sensitive and stuff?

}:-)4


4 posted on 02/01/2005 2:18:42 PM PST by Moose4 (http://www.livejournal.com/~moose4. Because the Internet was made for self-important wanking.)
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To: Sir Gawain

Thank goodness we've got that big surplus, to fund the hubcap patrols. Sheesh.


5 posted on 02/01/2005 2:18:52 PM PST by general_re (How come so many of the VKs have been here six months or less?)
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To: Sir Gawain

It'll get overturned by the ACLU as a "racist" law.


6 posted on 02/01/2005 2:20:28 PM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: Sir Gawain

What about the stoopid rider? Probably riding a Vespa.


7 posted on 02/01/2005 2:21:07 PM PST by bigfootbob
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To: Sir Gawain

We really need to stop electing lawyers before it's illegal to breath the air without a mask on.


8 posted on 02/01/2005 2:21:22 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: Sir Gawain

I've been wondering when this was coming. Creating an illusion for other drivers as to what your vehicle is doing is a dumb idea.


9 posted on 02/01/2005 2:21:58 PM PST by MarineBrat ("God is dead"- Nietzsche,1886. "Nietzsche is dead"- God,1901)
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“But I assume these serve no useful purpose other than appearance. And if they're creating a dangerous situation, maybe we need to look at that.”

Does Barlow know how many things this can be said about???

10 posted on 02/01/2005 2:22:34 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: Sir Gawain

Someone should remind Delegate Barlow that you can't (and shouldn't) legislate against stupidity.


11 posted on 02/01/2005 2:23:22 PM PST by Terabitten (A quick reminder to the liberals. The election in Iraq was done NOT IN YOUR NAME.)
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To: DTogo
I don't like those spinners, either. BUT, the government has no business outlawing them-- just another incident of the "camels nose under the tent", to me.
12 posted on 02/01/2005 2:23:58 PM PST by Rca2000 (Helping to swing the swing state of Ohio to "W")
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To: Sir Gawain

Some idiot looks at the wheels of a vehicle instead of the (LARGE, MASSIVE STEEL CONSTRUCT STANDING STILL AT THE STOP) and because he can't perceive the (LARGE, MASSIVE STEEL CONSTRUCT STANDING STILL AT THE STOP) isn't moving, he crashes his bike?

This isn't about wheel spinners, it's about situational awareness, and the grease spots inability to maintain it.

You just can't make this kind of thing up.


13 posted on 02/01/2005 2:26:04 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Children classics updated for Islam, "If you're happy and you know it, go Kaboom!")
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To: Sir Gawain

Every time I see those spinners I think, "Why, there oughta be a law!"
NOT

I think they're fun. I can't afford them, but I enjoy watching them -- free entertainment for the rest of us after the dummy behind the wheel spends his fortune on spinners he can't even see.


14 posted on 02/01/2005 2:28:15 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: Rca2000
I agree, I don't like them either. And I must admit that I almost made the same mistake as the motorcycle rider in the story. But I blamed it on me being stupid and not paying proper attention.
15 posted on 02/01/2005 2:28:56 PM PST by wolfpat (Dum vivimus, vivamus)
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To: Sir Gawain

You mean to tell me stupid people have more accidents? Amazing!


16 posted on 02/01/2005 2:28:56 PM PST by muir_redwoods
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To: Sir Gawain
This looks like creating a mountain out of a molehill, but do stop to consider the implications... what if I chose to "trick out" my car so that it has a steady flashing orange light on either side near the hood? Would this not be considered dangerously misleading and distracting, since many drivers would see that as a turn signal?

The problem, of course, is where do you draw the line? The issue with "spinner" wheels is that they can pose a danger by screwing up other driver's visual cues. Is the danger enough to warrant a nanny state intrusion? Probably not. But this isn't as much of a joke as it might appear on the surface...

17 posted on 02/01/2005 2:28:58 PM PST by kevkrom (If people are free to do as they wish, they are almost certain not to do as Utopian planners wish)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

These things dont need to be outlawed, the law should read anybody fool enough to buy them is too stupid to be driving.


18 posted on 02/01/2005 2:30:01 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: wolfpat

First time I saw these things I was on my bike, it startled me for a moment, but the pimpy decor of the vehicle tipped me off.


19 posted on 02/01/2005 2:31:27 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Put on your red shoes and dance the blues.)
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To: Sir Gawain
What a nonsensical waste of time. There are more important matters, like mandating that my patented nicotine suppositories be used in public to avoid the "dangers" of secondhand smoke. I don't know why I can't sell these things. It seemed like such a great idea at the time.
20 posted on 02/01/2005 2:31:38 PM PST by Jaysun (An "exit plan" would tell the terrorist how much longer to hang on.)
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