[neverdem]

I looked all over for the date and can't find it. From the digits at the end of the URL, it doesn't look old.

http://www.gunsandammomag.com/second_amendment/rk0405

[He Rides A White Horse]

The incessant drumbeat from the mainstream media

I'm surprised that our murder rate isn't higher considering the incessant "life is cheap" drumbeat from the mainstream media.

[45Auto]

This is the key: "An armed populace is threatening to a repressive government." Gun control is not about crime or protecting the innocent - it is about establishing tyranny. That's what the 2nd is all about and always has been about - not duck hunting, not "sporting use", not target shooting or competition. It is all about keeping the ambitious politician at bay, or at least scared. An armed society is a free society.

[cdubya]

This is a poorly researched article. The Mexicans hunt deer and I know several with pump and bolt action rifles of other than military calibers. That would mean no 7mm Mauser, .30-06, 7.62 Nato, or 5.56 mm. These are not hidden in the closet. The point about Americans travelling to Mexico is well advised.

[Brit_Guy]

America is safer than Brazil, Cuba, Lithuania and Mexico?

Yikes. The author will be trying to tell me that smoking causes cancer next.

[NRA2BFree]

Mexico's murder rate is an eye-popping 17.5. Mexican authorities are fond of blaming the high murder rate on firearms smuggled across the border from the United States. Nonsense. The U.S. has many more personal guns than Mexico, yet our murder rate is far lower than Mexico's. It is Mexico's absurd gun laws that prevent law-abiding citizens from protecting themselves against illegally armed criminals.

These are some of the people who are crossing over to the US to escape prosecution in Mexico. Now they are in the US, and some of them are already in our prisons because they've committed crimes in the US. Someone should mail this report to Bush and his cohorts who want to make them legal.

[gimmebackmyconstitution]

The argument is a good one, but the numbers are stale as an old box of saltines, IMHO. Can you provide more up to date data?

[stylin19a]

I can't tell by reading this article. Is this the murder by guns murder rate ? or the overall all murder rate ?

[Clemenza]

Jamaica has some of the strictest gun control laws in the world, but has a crime rate that makes Detroit look like Singapore.

It aint guns, its culture folks.

[Duke Nukum]

I saw this horrible show on A&E recently about the connection between mass and serial killers and cruelty to animals. One of the kids who shot up his school in the '90's along with killing his mother before hand, first went out and killed his pet dog and wrote about it in his journey.

It was so sickening, what he did to a being that most likely loved and trusted him unquestioningly, that I can't bring myself to repeat it here but suffice it to say, no gun of any sort was involved.

This sicko creep would have found a way to inflict pain and damage on others if all weapons were banned. And that goes for knives, chop sticks, golf clubs, whatever.

[GOPJ]

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[neverdem]

From time to time, I’ll post or ping on noteworthy articles about politics, foreign and military affairs. FReepmail me if you want on or off my list.

This other article you may find interesting as well. It has over 344 comments, although half may be from bayourod. I didn't read all the comments.

Republicans Squaring Off Over Bush Plan on Immigration

[Fiddlstix]

BTTT

[dufekin]

What about South Africa, the most violent republic in the world? What are their "gun-control" laws, from which criminals necessarily must be exempt?

Oh, yeah, and Mexico could solve most of its crime problem by adopting the second amendment, especially for young women in Juárez.

[lentulusgracchus]

The State Department even went so far as to issue a special notice to U.S. gun owners, warning about harsh Mexican gun laws. Americans are allowed to hunt in Mexico, but they must first obtain a permit from the Mexican Embassy or a Mexican Consulate before taking their hunting rifles south of the border.

The Mexican gun laws are hypocritical and just used to shake down Americans. A recent magazine article described one case, in which an American who was attending a gun show on the American side of the border made the mistake of deciding to go over to Mexico for dinner. He or someone in his party made a mistake when emptying the vehicle of guns and accidentally left a box of ammo in the back in plain sight. The Mexicans shook down his family for $20,000 in bribes, or something like that, to get him sprung from a Mexican prison.

Shun Mexico. Don't shop or travel there. They aren't that good neighbors. It ain't worth it.

The other function of the Mexican gun laws is to make sure the tourists being dry-gulched on the Matamoros-to-Tampico highway by corrupt Mexican cops (and some of them murdered) are unarmed. The State Department put out a warning about that, too -- but the article doesn't mention it.

[lentulusgracchus]

All firearms in Brazil must be registered with the government. This registration process can take anywhere from 30 days to three months. All civilian handguns are limited in caliber to no more than 9mm.

Well, the AMT Automag III is available in .30 Carbine, which is hotter at 100 yd than .45 ACP and 10mm are at 50 yd. Both .357 Mag and .357 SIG would fall within the Brazilian rules stated here, and some of the .30-cal. European sidearms of 60 years ago (Tokarev pistol, Mauser "broomhandle") were also hotter than anything in 9mm Parabellum.

And .38 Super, discussed above, groups energywise with .40 S&W and .44 Spl. at the muzzle.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Outstanding thread. I hope to link other threads to it in the future. FRegards ....